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Tale of Two Sofas

11 years ago

I posted this originally in the Furniture board but maybe I should've posted it here?

Here are these 2 sofas. They are online...yes, I know I'm taking a risk buying a sofa online...I just am torn on which to choose. My $ budget is limited.

Here's the first one...an oldie but goodie Ralph Lauren. Cheterfield style in a wool fabric. 92" L x 30" H x 39" D $995. + at least $300 shipping (scouting for shippers on uShip.com). Sofa is in CT and I'm in Central NY.

It's used (20+ yrs old) and a few hundred dollars more than the second sofa (shipping is the killer) but...it's a Ralph Lauren! In great condition too! I figure I can keep this for years and down the road if I want to reupholster it, etc. it's got great bones (I'm assuming) and down feather cushions. That's the only reason I'm considering a used sofa.

Sofa #2: Brand new, light beige 94" L x 36" H x 39" D. $887 and free shipping.

Still keeping the Chesterfield style and it has a little higher back which I like (more comfortable for me) BUT it's lsted as Horizon Chenille tufted sofa , from IFD Home Furnishings. Not as well known furniture company, it appears. As I've tried googling them. Sofa has chenille fabric, W cleaning code, "Cushion cores are constructed of low melt fiber wrapped over high quality foam.", "Seats and back spring rails are cutfrom 7/8” hardwood."

Thoughts? Opinions? I've looked at retailers in person but everything I seem to love is waaay out of my budget (thank you Ethan Allen) or in my budget and sorely lacking, IMO.

Thank you in advance! :-)

Comments (101)

  • 11 years ago

    I am linking my old thread (which also links to an older thread......get the idea that I typically may have some issues with decisions?)..... as I cannot seem to message you Wildbrat.I believe the sofa I got can come with 2 cushions but I guess it is lacking the tufting. The point though, is it's a very decent respectable sofa and was quite reasonable. my quest for sofa

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  • 11 years ago

    smalloldhouse…well, Sag Harbor. THAT is a beautiful sofa.


    However, that sofa is probably far more worth the $2,000 they're asking than the others you've looked at. Keep in mind that moving sofas is a areal PITA there is value for these sellers in having someone move it for them, so it can't hurt to ask for a deep discount, phrased nicely and politely, not meant to insult but just it's what you're looking for but out of your budget…that sort of thing.

    (Honestly, she should give it to you for the price of shipping it to your place. Sag Harbor, custom Chesterfield, linen fabric…puh-leeze).

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  • 11 years ago

    Here's a classic leather Chesterfield in Rochester, so fairly close to you. Accepting best offer. Leather chesterfield

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  • 11 years ago

    One of my concerns about buying a sofa without sitting in it is comfort. I went sofa shopping yesterday and was surprised at how many fabrics were too nubby or rough. The other issue issue is fit, and you just can't find that out online. Is online your only option?

  • 11 years ago

    Here's another option. A little further away, but since they need it gone by Monday I'm sure they're very negotiable.Green velvet tufted sofa

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    11 years ago

    The buttons are missing, not a design. Third from the left is gone and fourth from the right, so it's not a symmetrical pattern.

    Imagine how much that Ralphie tweed herringbone fabric is per yd!

    Casey


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  • 11 years ago

    I concur regarding the sag harbor sofa on all counts. I will have to double check how long that listing has been on CL. It's like real estate unless the seller is REALLY motivated, he/she won't accept their first offer.

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    Teeda, I saw that leather Chesterfield too, I know exactly where it is, in South Buffalo. I've been debating on whether or not to contact the seller. my offer would be under $1k...I've got nothing to lose though!


    i saw the green velvet sofa, nice but too small. Thanks again for sharing! :-)

  • 11 years ago

    smalloldhouse_gw no Macy's in a 50 mile radius of me has that sofa. :-(

  • 11 years ago

    Sheilaaus122 you do have a nice sofa! However, as indecisive as I can be too at times, I want tufting and lots of it! :-)

  • 11 years ago

    Did you see the white leather one on CL Utica? I don't know where Averill Park is but there asking $1600 or reasonable for a Stickley...if you don't find anything soon Harden sometimes has a Fall sale...CNY here too.

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  • 11 years ago

    Hi neighbor, Kathie 738! my saved CL search has a search limit of $1500 or less so I will temporarily increase that to see if it comes up, thanks!

  • 11 years ago

    That is a gorgeous sofa but I think that would stick out like a sore thumb in my room.

  • 11 years ago

    Wildbrat - we stayed longer in the finger lakes area over the fourth waiting for a call back that never came about that tv easel !!! Really- they said "someone else just contacted me-I'll let you know if they don't but" I finally texted and someone else got it-

    you!!

    haha small world...


  • 11 years ago

    WOW missymoo12, small world indeed! There was someone before me that contacted her and I waited for her to let me know if that person declined or never showed up so that's how I got it. I emailed her every day asking for the status, lol!

  • 11 years ago

    Here's a pretty one on sale at Joss & Main sofa.

  • 11 years ago

    Holy you know what! Look what I found!!! My #1 choice sofa! Lighter fabric and wrong color nailheads (opinions on mixing metal colors? I prefer antique brass, copper or bronze except in my bathroom - nickel there).

    no way can I afford $1500 though so I'm scared lol

    http://catskills.craigslist.org/fuo/5129463919.html


  • 11 years ago

    Um..it looks like the Sta-Puff marshmallow guy ran into a crazed person with a tufting fetish.

  • 11 years ago

    Well good morning to you too, tibbrix, LMAO!!

  • 11 years ago

    The only thing I've never cared for about Ethan Allen's Chadwick sofa is the scroll/down curve on the top back. At least it is only in the back...

  • 11 years ago

    Lol.

    Also, the slant of the back of that sofa I think you might not like. Chesterfield backs are 90 degrees from the seat, aren't they? Too much slant isn't comfortable.


  • 11 years ago

    Yes, Chesterfield backs are pretty much perpendicular to the seat. However I did sit on this sofa before in an Ethan Allen store and almost bought it until I begrudgingly realized I could not afford it. the slant didn't seem to bother me then. I actually went to a few furniture stores that day. From sitting on Raymour and Flanigan's chesterfield (SO uncomfortable) to the Ethan Allen's Chadwick and the Chadwick was very comfortable.

  • 11 years ago

    Ah, then ignore what I said. ;-)

  • 11 years ago

    If you love the sofa, make them an offer! It's already been moved out to their garage, so they clearly need it gone. I'd start at $1,000. Good luck!

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  • 11 years ago

    It's all good, tibbrix. ;-)

  • 11 years ago

    ive just spoken with the seller, seems very nice, he just needs to discuss my offer with his wife. :-)

  • 11 years ago

    If you see it and love it, I hope you get it.

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  • 11 years ago

    Still waiting to hear back...I can't help but feel anxious.

  • 11 years ago

    That's a beauty. Ethan Allen is good quality. Keeping fingers crossed for you!

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  • 11 years ago

    Fingers and toes crossed here, still waiting to hear back.

  • 11 years ago

    Just in case you don't get it, or if you need some bargaining power, the MS Saybridge at Macy's goes on super buy Wednesday for $889. I got an ad in the mail. Trying not to look too closely -- I've already ordered all I plan to.

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  • 11 years ago

    Oooh, thank you lascatx! None of my Macy's here has them but I will double check to see if one by any chance has it on display.

  • 11 years ago
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    I called my closest Macy's to see if any of my area stores have sofa floor models and the closest Macy's that does have a furniture showroom is in Albany which is approx 3 hours away. :-(

    Still waiting to hear back from the seller if him AND his wife agree to my $1k offer on their Ethan Allen Chadwick sofa. I honestly think $1k is reasonable. They've had it for over a year and upholstery is like a new car, once you've owned it and/or have driven it off the lot, the value goes down.

    After further thought I won't be totally heartbroken if I don't get it. The upholstery is a LOT lighter than I wanted and the nailheads are nickel instead of the bronze, copper or antiqued brass that I prefer.

    So my search goes on in the meantime...

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  • 11 years ago

    Thanks tibbrix but not the burgandy one is too small. I did just message the seller of the velvet and brown leather one though...asking what kind of leather, meseaurments, etc.?

  • 11 years ago
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    Well, I FINALLY found out who for sure makes the #2 sofa in my original post...Ashley Furniture. Anyone have any sofa experience with this company?

    It also figures that Syracuse doesn't have an Ashley furniture store...closest one is 40 minutes away, lol.

    http://ashleyfurniture.com/Showroom/Showroom.aspx?PageId=Showroom&CategoryID=1&ItemNo=1680438&SetDomTab=1&SeriesNo=16804&CollectionId=&style=&PageNumber=1&IsClicked=1&CatPageNumber=3

  • 11 years ago
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    Might want to ask if they can send more detailed pics as well, front facing, of the legs, any mars...

    Being from that area, though, I will say that is likely a very nice sofa.

  • 11 years ago

    Here's an option. The Howell sofa from Raymour & Flanagan. $1,039 on sale now.

    Howell Sofa · More Info

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  • 11 years ago

    Hi Teeda, I went to Raymour and Flanigan a couple of weeks ago and that is a sofa I actually sat on...not comfortable at all!

  • 11 years ago
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    So I see this sofa at Joss and Main...marked down to $899.95 so I immediately add it to my bag. Then of course they add the $150 "additional shipping charges" to it! Irritating because Joss and Main is a Wayfair company that's supposed to have special sales and Wayfair is cheaper, not by much though after tax but still. If only Joss and Main didn't have the $150.00 upcharge...then again I remember when Wayfair listed this same sofa for $939.00 less than 2 weeks ago. GRRRR....

    http://www.wayfair.com/Humphrey-Sofa-U3645-00-25-EQF2739.html

  • 11 years ago

    Might be just me, but I simply do not trust retail (new) sofas that cost under

    $3K, or thereabout. At $1K, we're talking particle board, plywood, staples…really poorly made and a bad value at $1K, whereas the $3K sofa made from hardwood, blocked and glued and screwed…is a MUCH better value.

  • 11 years ago
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    I agree that the craftsmanship of a new sofa under $1k is more than likely lacking. Heck the new sofas I LOVE are $2700+ but I can't afford them. I was hoping to find a high quailty used sofa in great condition OR find a high quality one that isn't in great condition cheap and I would get it reupholstered. I just don't see spending more than $1k on a used sofa in great condition no matter what the quality is...it's used.

  • 11 years ago

    Wild- I saw that on joss and main this morning and thought it looked promising for you but I find the info they provide is really like pulling teeth.......and since you truly cant sit in it or know what it is ( at least I don't know how to find what it really is)... I didn't pass it along. I know they are reputable in that you will get what you ordered, but the delivery is also an issue. It says delivery to front door and assemble with screwdriver or enclosed tools. oh well. If you do look at some Rowe sofas, they do have a few with tufted backs and 2 cushions. I know the one I have is comfy and solid (but not a $3,000 sofa either)....... but that craigslist one looks perfect. I hope you hear back from then.

    Re Ashley, it is confusing as there is a brand and a store. What I have seen at an Ashley store near me is that the stuff looks very nice, but seems to not be very good. If I recall, the cushions were not fully covered. The bottoms had Velcro so they would stay in place but you can not flip them.

    That would be my only caution. If they are fully covered and it looks good, I guess it would be fine.

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  • 11 years ago

    Good point sheilaaus122! I don't like cushions that aren't covered on both sides either. The sofa I saw on Joss and Main/Wayfair (more info about it on Wayfair.com) would be the first couch I've ever owned that had a stationary seat, no cushions to move at all. That part is intriguing but disconcerting at the same time.

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    Next I see this one on Long Island's CL...

    https://longisland.craigslist.org/fuo/5130528609.html

    15 years old, made by Sherrill Furniture (well made furniture, reputable company) looks like the same style/shape as my favorite Ethan Allen Chadwick sofa minus the upholstery fabric/color and fringe of course. That would all have to be changed once in my possession.

  • 11 years ago

    That is gorgeous. I'd even love it with just the fringe removed and some cream color pillows.

  • 11 years ago

    I ended up buying this used but well taken care of Sherrill sofa (down seat cushions) for $300 (originally listed for $400). I will eventually have it reupholstered but it's something I can live with for now. It's in Long Island now and I hired a shipper to bring it to me. Will be here in a little over a week! :-)

  • 11 years ago

    Wildbrat, what ever happened - did you get the Sherrill sofa, and are you happy with it?

  • 11 years ago

    I did get the Sherrill sofa. With the exception of the fabric I'm happy with it. I can't wait to get it reupholstered! The style/pattern is just too victorian for me. Unfortunately, I've had a recent financial setback so the reupholstering is on hold for now. The sofa is quality is excellent and the springs are great. I do wish the seat cushions were more firm but for them being 100% down AND 15 yrs old, it's in pretty good shape.