In my opinion, Gardino's Hoyas are huge! I've bought plenty from them, but I find the larger the plant, the more likely it is to go into shock and never recover. I think plants are kind of "programmed" by their environment, so when you take an established plant out of it's environment and into a completely different environment (as in from Florida in a greenhouse to Nebraska into home conditions), it's a very serious adjustment they have to make. I've had them take up to 18 months to start growing. And I've lost more than a few. (Mind you, a few don't seem to miss a beat... but most have at last a one season adjustment...) On the other hand, a cutting seems to be like a clean slate, not "remembering" that it was in Florida in a greenhouse. They root, they start growing.

Any particular reason you want BIG plants? There are plenty of the EA Hoyas (the ones at the box stores) that are large and established. As for the less common Hoyas, based on what cuttings cost, most of us couldn't afford a large plant!

Denise in Omaha

I have only purchased one "big," adult hoya, and I got mine from a local nursery so it was already familiar with environmental conditions in this area, which I think helped it adjust quicker. The rest of my hoyas, I've purchased online as cuttings or got from friends' plants' trimmings. BUT, I see people selling cheaply or giving away plants on Craig's List all the time. Sadly, they're often cleaning out a relative's house after a death and just want to find the plants a good home, but sometimes they're people just moving and not wanting to take their big plants on a long move in a hot moving van. Keep your eye on your local CL ads (sometimes challenging to find where people list those at).

I feel like somehow it's a better deal if they are a bigger plant. Like that KQ I posted that was on my porch, I just purchased her from a local nursery for 27 bucks I mean she's not huge, but she's established enough. I can always buy two from GN and combine & have, I guess I just enjoy the length of the full pot plants. But it makes perfect sense that you would risk some being culture shocked by the change

I brought one last summer that was in a 10 inch pot and had several long vines past 4 feet. I tried to repot it in the winter and it bit the dust. Someone tried to buy it off me on this forum but i did not know how to safely ship the large plant. If i had of shipped it to a new owner it might still be alive. :(

tlbean2004, You really should not transplant plants in winter.

Im contacting you Jan-sword Thanks!

tlbean2004 That chick is beautiful! I love it, you did great with it.

lol melo, it died!

O! EEeeyeah not really that great then :)