What would really bring it into the craftsman feel would be if I could make the roof a gable roof and follow the look of the front porch gable. However before anyone suggests it, I can't. :(

In FL, most major roofs need to be hipped roofs for insurance purposes.

Additionally, I know your next comment will be that you want me to bring
another column out on the left and around to the other street. I can't
do that. If I do, the trellis column will e over my setback on the side
street.

I'm not even sure what this means.

Best of luck with the plan.

I was going back to your version where on the left side of the house you extended the pergola so it wrapped around to the side street. The post that is dated last friday at 1:27PM. :)

Or we could all sign a petition allowing you to build your well thought out very attractive home as is increasing everyone's home values and present it to bimbo lady .............

I think that's the way to go Autumn!!! LOL.

The photos of cottage/craftsman styles reinforce what I see as the difficulty: The second story is too narrow on the front face to achieve the craftsman look.

Since you can add to the bulk of the second story without impacting your FAR limit, you may need to do that to achieve 'craftsman' on what is now the front face.

Or...if form is to follow function, and you don't want more 'upstairs', you can modify away from craftsman. (You can also just live with a less-than-ideal front; the side is fine.)

Thank you.

I guess I see it as a cross now between craftsman and four square. :)

As for living with less than ideal front, I still hope it gives the essence of craftsman; probably even more than most pseudo-craftsmans being built today. Frankly the minute I had to give up on a gable roof, is when it veered away from true craftsman. :)

(Mentally tapping my toes) Where is the update from the draftsman?

What do you mean "mentally"? I've checked in a half dozen times today!

I'm sorry I didn't post this news earlier.

We had another "setback". Unfortunately the draftsman had to put down his 13 year old golden retriever today so we've been delayed until tomorrow at least. If it's not tomorrow, then it will have to wait until next Monday because on Wednesday I head to Atlanta, GA for the Colored Pencil Society of America Exhibition and convention. If you're in the Atlanta area, the exhibition is at the Oglethorpe Museum and the reception is Saturday from 4-6 PM.

Trust me no one was more anxious today to see the plans than me.

We will try not to toss and turn all night. Lol

LOL Hendricks.

If you'd like, I'll do it for you! :)

Well I'm promised the plans tonight but apparently the draftsman is having a problem with elevation. it's not laying out as expected. Give me a break!

Fingers crossed!

Good morning cp. It's a new day....filled with promise and with a new draft right? :D

Sorry I am out of town until Monday. I have them but no way to post

Enjoy your art show! Patience is a virtue - for some but I am not one of the some, lol! ;)

Enjoy the show!! Can't wait to see what he came up with.

I definitely enjoyed the show. My drawing won second place

Cpart- Congrats!

Here are the plans everyone. These are from the draftsman with some changes of mine. I already sent the changes off to the builder to give to the draftsman. So what are your thoughts? Just know I am NOT changing the interior layout anymore. I am very happy with it.

cpartist: congratulations on your win!! wow! i like your floor plan. It is such a smart design with every room opening up/taking advantage of the backyard. It also seems to have no "wasted" space! I love that!

I like the triple windows on the upstairs loft! Just want to make sure you notice some details.

1. The windows on the upstairs are tucked up near the soffit. However, on the first floor they are spaced down.

2. And each corner double window on the left side elevation upstairs are not symmetrically sized side by side. (May just be an computer artifact, but some builders go exactly by the elevations, and you may want to fix it before the final plans are drawn up.

3. Was there a discussion on where you will put your towels in the master bath? I have a vague memory of a discussion on that, but I do not remember if it was on your thread.

4. Why is the a jog between the half bath and the study on the exterior wall of the first floor?

Love the balcony access upstairs. And I love the openness of the loft upstairs. That has turned into a much nicer space than previous versions.

By the way, I went to some houses at our local parade of home this weekend and thought of you. My favorite house was a craftsman home. It only had 8950 square feet with seven bedrooms and six baths with a seven car garage. It is for sale for a mere $1,799,000.

Thanks Hendrick.

1. The windows on the upstairs are tucked up near the soffit. However, on the first floor they are spaced down.

That is because upstairs the ceiling height is 9'4" while downstairs it is 10' in most of the house. The study and master bedroom views may actually change when he gives me a corrected elevation again. I don't think he accounted for the 9'4" ceilings in those two rooms.

2. And each corner double window on the left side elevation upstairs are not symmetrically sized side by side. (May just be an computer artifact, but some builders go exactly by the elevations, and you may want to fix it before the final plans are drawn up.

I'm not following.

3. Was there a discussion on where you will put your towels in the master bath? I have a vague memory of a discussion on that, but I do not remember if it was on your thread.

There should be a wide enough space on the narrow wall between shower and toilet to put two hooks.

4. Why is the a jog between the half bath and the study on the exterior wall of the first floor?

Because I am only allowed 2124 sq feet downstairs and to get rid of the jog would mean I would have to take space from somewhere else. If I push the powder room in, then I don't have enough room from my garage for a 36" door. If I pull the study out to meet the jog, then I don't have enough room to come out of the study into the hall.

Love the balcony access upstairs. And I love the openness of the loft upstairs. That has turned into a much nicer space than previous versions.

Thanks. I like it too although it's a lot more space than I need or want.

cpartist: congratulations on your win!! wow! i like your floor plan. It is such a smart design with every room opening up/taking advantage of the backyard. It also seems to have no "wasted" space! I love that!

Thank you Stella. It was what I was trying for.

2. Upstairs windows: Ok, looking at your left side elevation, on both of the upstairs double sets of windows, each left window is bigger than each right window.

4. Foundation jog: Oh the little dance we have to weave in order to follow arbitrary rules! Especially since square footage is entirely dependent on how careful the concrete footing guys will be.

I noticed that your garage door into the house opens into the garage over a step. In some localities that is a code violation due to the fact that you stand on the step and then the door swing pushes you off of the step so it is deemed a safety hazard.

2. Upstairs windows: Ok, looking at your left side elevation, on both of the upstairs double sets of windows, each left window is bigger than each right window.

Ah, I see it now. Bleary eyed after the convention. Yes I'll make sure that they are spec'ed to be the same exact size.

4. Foundation jog: Oh the little dance we have to weave in order to follow arbitrary rules! Especially since square footage is entirely dependent on how careful the concrete footing guys will be.

I have a vision of the concrete guys dancing around pouring the concrete into the footings like the hippos in the movie Fantasia. :)

I noticed that your garage door into the house opens into the garage over a step. In some localities that is a code violation due to the fact that you stand on the step and then the door swing pushes you off of the step so it is deemed a safety hazard.

I think it's ok where we are. It's a single step so should be ok either way. If I have room, I'll make the step deeper so less of a problem. Good eye!

Upstairs might you like the guest room door to open across from the closet for some added privacy? I also think it would be easier to get long furniture in and out.

Congratulations on your show.

I like the new elevations!

The only thing I would change is the upstairs window in the hall. It seems too big above that large living room window. Maybe that's just me? :)

Just thought I'd post a quick change, to see what you think....

And upstairs, the change to window....along with pocket door to bath. I thought you wanted that, but maybe not?

It looks great. I think the elevations have come together nicely. I like oaktown's suggestion about the door to the guest suite.

I am beyond happy for you!! It has been so much fun following along with your plans. Thank you for sharing! I know you are ready to get this show on the road!!!!' Let the building begin!

Thanks everyone. I've thought about it, but decided against putting the door on the side of the closet as it would be much more difficult going around corners to get furniture into the bedroom. Think about how many turns it would take to get a bed into the room. It wouldn't even be possible most likely.

I am also not putting in a pocket door. Honestly, and I say this with gratitude for your ideas, there comes a point where it can get ridiculous (and expensive) to be adding pocket doors (or changing where doors are) just so someone who might come and stay with us for 2 or 3 days can have extra privacy that isn't even needed. Especially since DH and I sleep downstairs.

As for the window in the hallway and great room, it's still not right. I just did a quick mockup. I sent the draftsman what I'm hoping to achieve. However I may switch to your idea upstairs LL. It does look good.

Not to beat a dead horse, but here's why I think it would actually be easier to move furniture with the guest room door on the side: imagine you're (well, not you, but the mover!) are bringing a bed down the hall. Continue just past the little hall, and just angle back through the door. As it is, you have a tight, 90-degree turn, into the little short entry beside the closet which allows no wiggle room. Regardless, the furniture will be moved in only once. Guests, on the other hand, will be occasional or frequent (especially if we have more winters like the last two up north here...all your new GW friends will be flocking down to you lol!)

And after you angle it into the bedroom the way you're suggesting BP, you then hit the closet wall and have to turn it another 90 degrees, unless you put it halfway down the wall. I don't like doors halfway down a wall that cuts a room. And since you're beating a dead horse, let me beat mine. If guests are too embarrassed to go out into the EMPTY upstairs hall to go to the bathroom, then they can stay in a hotel. :) Otherwise, they can walk out of the room and make the short turn.

I felt I had to show you how many turns it would be if I did move the door as some have suggested.

Oh, I thought they were talking about this....

I think that would cause an awkward jog. :)

Me, too....but it makes more sense with the furniture moving.

I think the upstairs looks great 'as is'. When do we (LOL) I mean YOU break ground? :)

WE, I mean I have to get final plans and then the builder sends it out for bids. Once he gets back bids and if it's not too high a price, we'll apply for our loan and at the same time, he'll apply for the permits. If lucky we'll break ground end of October which probably means end of November or starting in the new year. Luckily, we don't have to worry about snow or frost. Just lots of rain right now.

Oh and because the great room is a bit smaller, my studio will lose 14" in width. I'm not upset though because it's still quite large for my purposes.

What is the bump out depth? If it will be infrequently used you might want to flip it just to capture that space for moving furniture. It does look tricky to make it through that doorway. It's not that much farther from the bathroom. Okay that's it. Moving on I just thought I'd throw it out there for the furniture thing. I can't wait to see it built - I hope you plan on sticking around through the process so we can see your baby grow!

With a long piece of furniture it would be easier to take it down the hallway and back it into the guest room. You will not make a turn with the door across from the closet. Imagine getting one of those arrows in the way you have it set up now--you might need to stand it upright to avoid it getting stuck.

I am sorry if you have already answered this somewhere, but what material are you using for the exterior?

oaktown that was what I was thinking straight down the hall and then into the studio and then gah how do you get it at that angle to enter the guest suite? I thought maybe the bump out would make it easier as you have the loft to make turns and then you could back into the elevator or at least the bump out to make your entrance on an angle the way I modified it.

I think moving the furniture will be fine. It will not be an everyday occurrence anyway. When you first move in, just bring the furniture for the guest room down the hall, through the studio, out on the balcony, and into the guest room from the balcony doors. There will be a much better angle of entry on the balcony.

Autumn, originally the draftsman had the door on that side. i moved it so it was closer to the bathroom. The way you have it now means a longer walk to the bathroom and a wrong turn means falling down the stairs. :)

Oaktown, I'm not following. Are you agreeing with me that the door should be where I have it or are you saying it should be facing the closet?

Aec, the upstairs will be Hardie siding or Hardie shake and downstairs will be stucco.

The way I have it, it will be fine moving the furniture in.

Ah connected balcony - hadn't caught that. I suppose movers will know what they are doing. It's always dh an I and he is much stronger which turns into interesting moving encounters with some gouged walls and interesting conversations. :O

LOL Autumn. No we are not moving ourselves. We're too old for that.

I'm just trying to picture your studio FULL of colored pencils.. :) Are you going to do a drawing of your house once thou finalize the plans???

Amber, I own 5000+ pencils between both homes. LOL. Plus more paper than I can use in two lifetimes.

No I'm not going to draw my house. I like to tell stories with my pencils.

Because this thread has become so long, I started a new one HERE