They are all so beautiful.

I guess you really love the birdsnest types more than the upright types?

I am fond of Hahnii

I like hahnis a lot too and in my very limited growing space they fit in well. Sahs2014 I am not too far from you relatively speaking.......born in Philly, grew up in Bucks County and now in central NJ. Other than a bright kitchen window my home is relatively small and the larger windows on the north side so light limited. I can get away with growing a lot of additional plants in my office window and another office shoplight fixture. Some go in less than ideal places over the winter but I try to get most/all my Sans outside here in the summer where they recover a bit. I have problems with some of the extreme variegates because of the winter period. I know how to grow them well, but space is limited. In hahnis I currently keep 'Jade Dwarf Marginated', 'Silver Frost', 'Streaker', and 'Siebert'. I like silver marginated too but I accidnetaly lost mine a while back.

I know what you mean about limited space! And winter is so long too. I work near Hackettstown. Your plants always look great! This summer has been rather cool and damp. You were probably a bit warmer than may area, but still. Got any pictures of your Hahnii?

A couple on my office windowsill right now.

Chris and Fred are Awesome...

That is alll..

For now.

May I humbly request each picture be labeled just for um....googling purposes?

(And so I know what they are....and can become familiar)

Laticauda I think I corrected the names on mine above.

Fred

See...I didn't even know they were wrong.

Okay, so do you mean to tell me that ALL of the Sans that grow in a birds nest fashion are all hanhiis? Or do you mean the SIZE and the fact that it's birdsnest.

Can you just please elaborate on which each term means to you and why you make the distinction. Are there bigger birdsnests? Are there different species? Stuff like that....

Also, question: are there both a Jade and Dwarf Jade variety? And is the dwarf jade a hahnii? What makes a hahnii? Just size?

Russ is the best person on this board to define proper nomenclature in Sansevieria. In any case, all of the "birdsnest" types are Hahnis. They are all a mutation of S. trifasciata. S. trifasciata is the common snake plant you see which grows tall. There are also "Futura" types which are intermediate in size......a little more short and fat than the tall types but not as short/squat as the hahni types. You can find various patterns of variegation on all of these. Plants that are green are usually more robust and a little larger than their variegated equivalent all else being equal (more chlorophyll= more "food" for the leaf). There are standardized names for most of these cultivars (Juan Chahinian has a whole book of these). However, growers often mislabel or apply new (nonvalid) names (like "black Star") to help sell their plants.

woodnative robusta is equal to future in stature just no variegation, yes?

Don't worry Laticauda I screw the names up all the time, LOL!

Yes Fred that is correct!

Laticauda I believe there is a mid sized Jade, though I could be in lala land on that LOL!

Thanks woodnative for the info!

Fred

Woodnative,

Keep an eye out on that Streaker in your first photo. Beginning to look almost like Solid Gold. Remember I had some pups that look promising. Next new leaves were mostly green with a thin yellow/white stripe. Just too unstable.

Stush

Yeah, the one I was sent put out a mostly white leaf, then a mostly green one, bummer?

I still love it! It's like a surprise with each new leaf!

and Russ never made it to thus thread.

and top center which can't be seen is Longiflora)

Is moonshine a hahnii?

I saw your japonica or...wait...are there two? Japonica and japonesa?

I saw one of those in another thread where you and someone else were propagating them. Or she was at least lol.

I don't recall ever seeing a longiflora, though.

I believe it is Japonesa

this from Glasshouseworks on S. Longiflora:

Rugged upright sword leaves with pale green to olive blushed cross-marks
and horny-corky rim. Handsome, though not particularly colorful. Name
reflects distinction from S. guineensis,rather similar to S. aubrytiana
for this has flowers with distinctively long corolla tubes held erect in
a "head," that is, if you can coax it into bloom. Of more botanical
than horticultural interest.

Okay so what's the difference between botanical and horticultural? I guess they mean for people who are in it for the science of it and not how the plant can look good in a landscape?

laticauda yes you are correct there on botanical vs. horticultural. Also, 'Moonshine' is more "Futura" sized........taller than hahnis but not as large as the full size cultivars.

Then I'm definitely not a horticulturist, lol. My main goal is to make the plant look good, be healthy.

Thank you for the definition WN.

These are horrible pictures, but... are these "Robusta" and "Whitney"?

another picture of some plants in the first picture.

and I didn't take a cart, so nothing jumped into it!

LOL!

Plain is all too often discounted as boring or run of the mill. I find plain is often as appealing as variegated. Just look at the "lowly" Sansevieria trifasciata, most people prefer S. trifasciata laurentii, I like them both. The S. Longiflora is a neat looking Sans.. Don't get me wrong, variegation is desirable but they all have their appeal.

I like the green ones because they are more efficient. ;)

So I can have more of them since they don't need as much light!

Agreed!

Oh, especially the really dark ones, like the dwarf jade and the S.t. robusta. (Fred tight me about that last night!)

so I think the other ones in the picture are robusta, right?

what about the one that is all very lightly mottled? I may have to go buy all three...........*ahem* for scientific purposes, of course!

It's a good thing I didn't buy any of those.

look what I got out of the trash today!

I still may *need* to go and get one of those really dark, almost black ones....and the really light colored one that was up there that's not been ID'd for me yet. And the Whitney.

I'll just repot this and see where it goes from there!

This one looks really interesting. No telling how tall it will grow. Have fun with it.

According to Fred's research...7 feet!

Barb, would it be invasive where you live?

No, we get freezing weather in the winter,.

I think these may be hardy and die back but come back from rhizomes in the ground. You don't really have long, hard freezes, do you? I'm not really that familiar with you specific geographic location's climate.

I just know summer time is hot and sticky!

They would never make it, they are very tender. I think you would have to be way down in South Fla to keep them outside year round. When we did live in South Fla., years ago, i grew all my plants on a covered patio all year. If a cold snap was forecast, we would take blankets and sheets and throw them over.

Our summers here in Ga are not nearly as hot as Ok. We are up in the hills in North Ga., and it is usually 5 or 10 degrees cooler than Atlanta.

I used to grow Sans in my backyard In South Florida. Wonderful place South Florida.

I just got some winter hardy cacti. This is exciting!

I know that was a tangent!

Sans 2014, Yes it is a true paradise for plants. I had lots of fun growing tropicals down there. It was terribly humid though. I really enjoy a climate with four seasons.

I'll keep my favorite weather destination to myself. I don't want the whole world to see it and decide to move there like what's happening in Cali right now!

bugs and tropical storms are the worst part, then there is the winter traffic to contend with, LOL! But then again compared to this:

Laticauda what cactus did you get?

Oh, you know....it's some sort of Echinocereus (how would one pronounce that word?) But I didn't write down the species name. I guess there are some perks to having our hot summers. Let's just pray that winter is easy on us and brings bounty and health to this earth.

is it okay if I post a photo of it? I think you may like it.

of course

When I see garden gnomes, I think of a group of kids that would steal garden gnomes. And traffic cones.

no wonder the gnomes were hiding in the ferns all summer, LOL!

Smart gnomes, Fern sure. I'm pretty sure David the gnome was a German cartoon, wasn't it?

fern sure, LOL

Hehe! I love puns! I also think it's really cool that your gnomes hide in the ferns.