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I'm so confused!

11 years ago

I have a heat pump system that must be replaced, and I've no idea how to choose the best system (read the most efficient but not overkill) for my application. My house is a 1650 sq ft tri-level with approx 300 sq ft on a concrete slab, approx 675 sq ft second story and 675 sq ft first floor over a crawlspace. There are 7 vents downstairs and 6 vents upstairs. I live in Tacoma, Washington, which has a relatively mild climate. Our heating season is about 7 months long- cold and rainy with maybe only a month of below freezing temperatures; and I usually only need to run the A/C for 2 months out of the year. Summer time humidity is not a big issue. My current heat pump is a 3 ton Tempstar R-22 unit paired with a Goodman air handler model number A36-10C. This system has been adaquate but not great, and hasn't been particularly economical. The downstairs is too cool in the winter and the upstairs is too hot in the summer. I want the replacement system to be the most efficient and economical I can afford without being overkill. One of the companies that did a bid for me said the air return was adequate, but just barely. They looked at adding an additional air return, but then decided that the existing return, while not optimal, would serve. They proposed a Carrier Comfort Series 25HCD3 heat pump with a Carrier FB single speed electric furnace with 15KW heat strip on the low end, and a Carrier Infinity Series 25HNB6 2 stage heat pump with a Carrier FV variable speed electric furnace with 15KW heat strip on the high end. Other bids I got were for an American Standard 3 ton Silver 14 heat pump 4A6H4036 paired with an American Standard 3 ton indoor air handler with 10KW heat strip (model number unknown); American Standard Gold 17 4A6H7036 heat pump paired with an American Standard TAM7AOC42H31 variable speed air handler (I think I read somewhere that it has a 20KW heat strip.) The last two systems are a Trane 2 ton XR-15 heat pump paired with a Trane 2.5 ton GAM-5 air handler with 10KW heat strip, and a Trane 2 ton XR-17 heat pump paired with a 3.5 ton TAM-8 communicating variable speed air handler. My head is ready to explode with all this info. The Trane guy said my house sizes out to a 1.7 ton unit, with the nearest size being a 2 ton unit, yet one of his proposals included a 3.5 ton air handler. Would an air handler of this size be too big for my barely adequate air return? How do I choose what size heat strip 10KW, 15KW, or 20KW? Can you help me sort this out? I have no way of knowing who is overselling and who is underselling- can you help?

Comments (4)

  • 11 years ago

    New Heat Pump System

    Here is my general min spec sheet for new system. both outside and inside units should be replaced to have a properly matched system.

    15 SEER, 12.5+ EER, 9 HSPF
    best matching VS air handler
    full BTUs in both cooling and heating for your rated size
    R-410a refrigerant(same as Puron)
    scroll compressor preferred
    electronic demand defrost preferred
    thermostat with "dehumidify on demand" feature
    staged backup heat strips
    new and correctly sized refrigerant lineset
    10 yr warranty on parts and compressor

    you want a thorough inspection of your ductwork system. size, overall condition, supply and return lines, insulation qualities, leak test, etc.

    any hot/cold spot issues in your home should be addressed.

    My personal recommendation is Trane/AmStd and Carrier/Bryant.

    Depending on your location, I would not purchase a new system that did not have electronic demand defrost.

    Your complaint about cold downstairs and hot upstairs is very typical about trilevels and usually is indication of poor ductwork sizing/design. Do you have returns in each level? If not, that would be my starting point along with correct sizing. You need a minimum of 1200-1300 CFMs of return.strategically located. One return is not adequate for good airflow.

    for your location/climate and a 2-3 ton sized system, I would think no more than 7-10 KW of backup heat strip would be fine. What size do you have now? 10 KW yields about 35 KBTUs.

    i prefer Trane/AmStd HPs over Carrier. Don't know about your budget. 2 stage condensers are nice but come with a price. Correct sizing of condenser is most important. As far as var speed air handlers, they are not necessary if summertime humidity is not a concern. But you do want a high eff model like the GAM5 that will get your higher efficiencies.

    have a load calculation performed in writing for correct sizing and a thorough look at your ductwork system particularly the returns.

    IMO

  • 11 years ago

    Thank you for looking at this for me. To answer your questions, my only air return is located halfway up the stairs, so it is halfway between levels. The CFM calculated out to be 1200. Another return was looked at being added upstairs, but the way the ducting would have to be configured made things difficult, so it was determined 1200 CFM would suffice. As long as I can be comfortable downstairs where I spend the majority of my time, I will be satisfied. One of the guys that came out said I have a 10KW heat strip currently. Are staged backup heat strips something I have to specify in an air handler? Can a specific type and size heat strip be added to whichever air handler I choose (say for instance the GAM-5)? I think I can swing a two-stage heat pump, so I will definitely consider one. Would it be OK for the company I choose to do the load calculation and energy audit, or would it be best to have an independent company come do that? I thank you in advance for your patience and help sorting this all out- I want to make the best-informed decision I can.

  • 11 years ago

    I think a two-stage in PNW would be a good idea. How close to salt water are you? If close, you might prefer the Trane/AmStd. They supposedly do better in salt water environs.

  • 11 years ago

    I am 15 miles inland from Puget Sound, and about 100 miles from the Pacific ocean. I was leaning toward Trane/AmStd before I contacted you, so we are on the same page there.