Fred, this looks like regular trifasciata to me. It's definitely not Black Gold, the very dark form of trifasciata (which is sold under other incorrect names).

Russ

I was afraid you were going to say that, they look much darker inside the house. Pity, I should have liked it to be what I thought it was.

Fred

Fred, isn't this the one you bought under another name? I'm wondering if there is something different about it that I'm not seeing. The seller must have thought it was different than trifasciata.

Russ

Russ these pictures are of the other 2 mentioned, alas I think the are all S. trifasciata. Note it was yet another cloudy day so quality is not as it should be. Fred

what do juvenile leaves (Black Coral) look like?

Fred, those do look like trif. Odd that someone sold you a Black Coral and it was only trif. There was a woman selling a sans called Black Coral on Ebay, years ago, but I never bought one and just assumed it was another trif variety. That's all I know about Black Coral other than most of the examples I've seen are actually Black Gold, a very dark form of trif.

I'll do some research on Black Coral, find out more about it.

Russ

Thanks Stush very informative as usual. Hope you are feeling well!

Fred

Stush, I'm assuming that Black Coral is a renaming of Chahinian's Black Gold. The nursery trade uses Black Gold for another sans which I think is actually Compacta. I'm trying to use the actual, official names for these sans, but the nursery trade sure is making things complicated.

I've seen those big pots of this sans at the big box stores. I always look thru big pots of sans for something odd and different among them.

Russ these are my new pictures. I certainly have nothing that looks like Stush's picture. So your original ID is almost certainly correct. Run of the mill trifasciata. note 2 different plants here.

Black Gold to what I thought was in Futura 'Black Gold'. Has a wider bank of yellow with a very dark interior.

Thanks for the pic Stush. I'll have to ask Chris to help me out here, this is one of the newer creations that I'm not familiar with. It looks like Midnight Shine with a wider variegated margin, which Chris has sent me. But the nursery trade is making up names as they go along and making a mess of what is what. At least they identified it as a Futura-size, which helps.

Fred, I think those are all regular trif.

Russ,

These 'Black Gold' are common around here at the big box stores. I don't have any more. I gave them all (about 10) to my daughter to put in her windows in basement for air cleaner.

Stush

They're common here too, at Lowe's and Home Depot.

Stush, if I planted a leaf cutting of Midnight Shine, the result would obviously be the same sans without the yellow edge. I'm wondering what that sans would be called, must be a name for it. Midnight?? I'm not up to snuff on these newer cultivars on the market right now.

Russ

I don't know Russ. I did have one that was all black (very dark green). It had a shinny cast. I loved the variegated ones the most so I gave it to 'Hijole' (Greg.). Who used to post here. He loved it. He can plant his right in his yard and not worry about winter.

I do think the stem cutting would produce S. tri. Robusta.

Stush

Never thought about the cutting producing Robusta, you might be correct. But my thinking was that Jade Dwarf Marginated leaf cuts produce Jade Dwarf, not regular Hahnii. And Midnight Shine seems like a Futura-size version of that with a thinner margin, so Hahnii rules must apply. So I don't know for sure.

Interesting thinking about this though.

Russ

Thinking more about it. I think you are correct. Here's a link;

http://mrec.ifas.ufl.edu/foliage/folnotes/sansevie.htm

List is incomplete and don't know if it's in Chahinian's book.

Stush

Thanks for that link Stush, I've saved it to my Favorites for future ref. I've gotta catch up with these new cultivars, I have very few in my old collection.