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Harvest from old orchard

11 years ago

We finally moved away from the city. Our new property has several old, apparently VERY old, fruit trees on it. I harvested some cherries which are very small, a tiny bit larger than dime size, and ripen from gold to dull red. I bought a Leifheit cherry pitter as recommended here on a different thread. The gadget jammed every 5- 10 cherries and the plastic pit guard disintegrated with the first 30 cherries. After that it removed the pit and pretty much all the flesh which remained attached to the pit leaving a fairly hollow shell. Will try again today with a new plastic guard. The cherries themselves are delicious.

Also picked a couple of pounds of plums. Yellow flesh and skin which ripen to a nice blush on one side. Ping Pong ball size. I thought I could just slice them in half and pop out the pit. Hah! Tried different methods and ended up just slicing as much of the flesh off as I could. Is that what everyone does? Forgiver my ignorance but in my limited experience with harvesting fruit we just pick a papaya, slice it in half and scoop out the seeds with a spoon. To make guava jam the entire guava, rind, seeds and pulp all go into the pan. In comparison these cherries and plums seem very labor intensive. The trees have been neglected for many years and we will have to evaluate what can be revitalized.

We also have apples and pears but they seem to have reverted to the wild. Seller said some of the apples grew both green and red apples on the same tree but I am guessing from the number of stems that some are the grafted apple and some sprouted from the original rootstalk. Clearly I am not an expert but that is my guess.

Finally, my question - is there an easier way of dealing with these small fruit? They are delicious but time-consuming. Is that what all of you deal with or is it just the nature of our trees? I was thinking I may need to hunt for recipes which call for cooking the entire fruit and removing the pits afterwards. We would like to save and use some of these old trees as we are not looking forward to starting all over from scratch with new trees at our age. Any suggestions for these fruit? thanks, sam

Comments (6)

  • 11 years ago

    I think a good part of the issue is the nature of your trees and the fruit they are producing. While it is true the pitting of even high quality cherries is somewhat time consuming I don't find it that tedious and have little problems with fruit left on the pit.

    The wild fruits are much more difficult to work with but as you suspect there are ways of using it by cooking whole and then straining results in jelly and juices for example. And cherries, if you freeze them first, when thawed will just pop out the pits easily.

    Dave

  • 11 years ago

    Our property in Ohio had wild fruit trees. While the flavors were intense and delicious, removing skins, pips or stones was impossible. I washed the fruit, threw them in a pot with a bit of water, and cooked to soften, ran them thru a mill to remove the debris, and then did whatever I wanted with the pulp. This worked quite well for apples, cherries and plums.

    You might want to have a professional orchardist look at those trees and advise you on proper pruning; you might even want to hire it done by someone who knows what they're doing. I think you will find that proper pruning and feeding will greatly improve the future fruit crop.

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks Dave. After mangling and ripping the pits out of these little cherries before throwing their tiny carcasses in the freezer I am hoping your idea of freezing them first and then pitting works for me. Will try with next batch. Am also going to try some with Kate's suggestion of cooking to soften although my mill specifically says to pit cherries and plums first so running them through the mill to remove the pits probably isn't an option here.

    And yes, we are definitely hiring professionals. We want professionals to prune because a) we are old futts and b) we want healthy trees and we think their best shot will be having professionals do the job. Thank you both very much for your advice.

    Another wrinkle, two out of 4 Master Gardeners say our dime size "cherries" are actually plums which may explain why my cherry pitter kept choking on the pits. Two other Master Gardeners including an extension agent say they are real cherries. We think they taste very much like cherries.

    Two Master Gardeners have told us our other mystery berries are serviceberries although the trees have single-trunks and are 70-80 feet tall. Next mystery in line will be tiny yellow fruit smaller even than our cherries (about the size of a blueberry.) They taste like plums. What an adventure! Am having a great deal of fun.

  • 11 years ago

    I use a Foley Mill to remove debris. It doesn't get clogged by the size of a pit.

  • 11 years ago

    The only thing I can add here is that small yellow plums make awesome jam! I have fussed with more than my share of little, albeit great tasting fruits. I got raw hands and a sore arm from peeling cherry tomatoes and seeding them with a Foley mill. Awesome tasting sauce though. I probably spent a couple of hours cutting out all the worms and brown spots from little apples from an ancient orchard, but that also made awesome applesauce. I think if you cook the fruit, like for jam, you could easily fish out the pits if they were plum sized. I just kind of mangle the fruit until the pit comes out, by hand.

  • 11 years ago

    Update - An Urban Forester from a neighboring city has identified our "serviceberries" as cherries and our "cherries" as plums. Our plums are still also plums. I guess I can't be irritated that my cherry pitter failed with our "cherries" as they weren't actually cherries. Also, I don't have a Foley mill. All I have is a Victorio strainer. This is all a learning experience and I will continue to mangle and freeze fruit as the results are delicious although time consuming. The owner of a fruit tree nursery is coming to evaluate our fruit trees, grapes, hazelnuts and garden soil next week to come up with a remediation plan. Thanks for the advice! I appreciate the comments and suggestions. sam