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Thoughts on this fertilizer??

11 years ago


The levels are so low. How is this beneficial over other types with a higher NPK?

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  • 11 years ago

    You've nailed it. Levels are so low that it can neither harm....nor really help.

    I am not a fan of the product, or of the cult following.

    Josh

  • 11 years ago

    Something I wrote and saved many years ago, and caught a considerable amount of flak for:

    Hmmmm. The guaranteed analysis of the macro-nutrients (NPK) in Eleanor's VF-11 is: 0.15 - 0.85 - 0.55 This is less than 1% of ANY of the majors. 1/8 of 1% N, 7/8 of 1% P, 1/2 of 1% K. This is EXTREMELY low in fertility. Since I cannot find the rest of the analysis, I'm going to guess the rest of the nutrients are probably nonexistent or nearly so.

    I haven't used this potion, but then, you don't need to ride the bus to know what makes the wheels go round & round. Forgive me for being somewhat skeptical or even cynical, but when vague claims are made like: ... and mildew is eliminated because VF-11 changes the pH and creates a condition where mildew can not grow. Once again, isn't it amazing? I wonder why there isn't something specific in the claim. Changes the pH of what? Soil? Cellular pH? Leaf surface pH - for how long? Hmmm
    I also wonder at: VF-11 builds so much strength and health that plant cells 'harden' and 'seal in' the amino acids which aphids feed on. You have merely eliminated their food supply. And you have done it without the use of poisonous systemic or pesticides. Pretty nice...huh? Don't aphids feed on sap. How does this product make the sap unavailable to aphids? Does it somehow make cells so hard that they cannot be penetrated and dry up all the intra-cellular plant water/sap? Should I/we be saying GMAB here? There's more, but you get the drift.

    I wouldn't say that this product has no benefit, as it may very well have some, but I am of the general feeling there is almost surely no panacean value to products like Superthrive or this elixir, and it's a good bet it's not the magic potion some may think it to be. I don't trust advertising that is known to be false and this alone is enough to fuel the skepticism in me.

    One thing additional: The claim that "you cannot overdo", means there could only be extremely minute (almost immeasurable or nonexistent) amounts of any micro-nutrients in it because micro-nutrient overdose produces toxicity at even low levels and over-doing would reveal readily visible symptoms quickly.

    Like I said, I wouldn't argue that it has no value, but I do know that I would invest in a good, known source of micro-nutrients and/or an appropriate fertilizer before I'd trust plant vitality to a product labeled with insubstantial claims.

    Al

  • 11 years ago
    Thats all i needed to hear... Glad i wasted 11 bucks on this stuff...haha. I need a good reliable fertilizer. And i need to learn how to use it properly to ensure the right amount of elements are introduced as well as taken out of the soil. Ahh the journey continues....


    Gabe
  • 11 years ago

    The
    goal for fertilizing containerized plants can easily be described. Ideally, we
    would work toward ensuring that all the nutrients plants normally secure from
    the soil are in the soil solution at all times, in the ratio at which the plant
    actually uses the nutrients, and at a concentration high enough to ensure there are no
    deficiencies yet low enough to ensure the plant isn't impeded in its ability to
    take up water and the nutrients dissolved in water. This goal is easily
    achievable using one water soluble synthetic fertilizer. You CAN use organic
    forms of nutrition, like fish/seaweed emulsions or various types of meal, but
    that makes it much more difficult to achieve the goal.

    More about fertilizers

    Al

    bielo83 thanked tapla (mid-Michigan, USDA z5b-6a)
  • 11 years ago

    Just ordered some Foliage Pro =)