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Saving Mortgage Lifter seeds - no white fuzz, no sludge?

11 years ago

My one lone Mortgage Lifter plant has done so ludicrously well that I deemed it a perfect candidate for my first try at saving seeds. I went with the seemingly simple steps: combined gel/seeds with a couple spoonfuls of water, covered with plastic wrap, poked a couple holes. But after six days of stirring and checking daily, I never saw any white fuzz or sludgey stuff on top of the gel/water mixture, as I was expecting.

Certainly smelled awful - kind of a sour fruit smell with a bit of a rubbery tang to it. Last night I poured off the water, washed and dried everything nicely, and the seeds sure look presentable. But what am I missing here by not getting that fuzz on top? Did I do something wrong or is the fuzz a not-every-time occurrence?

Comments (7)

  • 11 years ago

    It does stink, but your mistake was adding water and stirring it. The mat will form if you leave it alone :-) I only add water if it looks a bit dry, and then only a few drips.

    I have tried leaving my containers uncovered, but sometimes I have several batches brewing and the smell gets a bit much, plus I sometimes have fruit flies in my kitchen. I often cover the containers with plastic wrap and I don't bother to poke holes in it.....

    Since you have lots of tomatoes, I would try again - unless you prefer to do a germination test, just to make sure that the seeds are still ok.

    Linda

  • 11 years ago

    Agree with Linda as to the problems but I would expect your seeds to germinate fine. If you have additional fruit it always pays to save seeds from multiple fruit using your same methods but this time no water and don't stir, ok? :)

    Dave

  • 11 years ago

    I grew Mortgage Lifter from saved seeds, but didn't go through the fermenting process - just dried them on a paper towel and put the bare seeds in labeled envelopes in a jar in the fridge until the following February. I grew Indigo Rose, Yellow Icicle and San Marzano the same way. I planted 2 of each and they all germinated. I sometimes save a few seeds when I go to a tomato tasting - just put a few on a napkin.

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    lgteacher, of course that will work. I even grew seeds straight from a tomato once without even drying them (when I was desperate to grow something over the winter and didn't have any tomato seeds handy). However, the whole reason for fermenting is to destroy any pathogens on the seed surface.

    Linda

  • 11 years ago

    I ferment tom seeds and use a significant amount of water in the process. And I also stir once/day which serves to break up the clumps of agglomerated seed and tom flesh initially floating at or near the surface of the brew (to aid in the sinking of the "good" seeds).

    Brew in above image probably has a vintage of about 3-4 days. This particular ferment yielded several thousand tom seeds. Total ferment time for this batch was roughly 5-6 days before the decantation and filtering processes were performed.

  • 11 years ago

    Your choice of course but it does dilute the fermentation effects and benefits.

    Dave

  • 11 years ago

    That is why ( adding water, stirring) inhibits/delays fermentation. Also if the water used is chlorinated it further can inhibit fermentation. You can add more fresh tomato juice to it instead of water , if you like. The purpose of fermenting is to break down and separate the gel from seeds. JMO


    Sey

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