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Question on reblooming rambler

11 years ago

I know they're not supposed to, but third year in a row and there's about 25 new buds on it. I don't deadhead, the hips turn brown and fall off, so I'm guessing I wouldn't get more rebloom if I did deadhead? I know I'm lucky to have any rebloom at all ! The rose is Edmond Proust.

Comments (14)

  • 11 years ago

    On HelpMeFind, the rose is described as having "Spring or Summer flush with scattered later bloom", and this is reiterated in the comments. I can't answer if dead-heading would improve this, but from what I remember, dead-heading improves rebloom by preventing seed from forming. If your rose doesn't form viable hips then I don't think it would be necessary.

    :-)

    ~Christopher

    altorama Ray thanked AquaEyes 7a NJ
  • 11 years ago

    I had barely heard of 'Edmond Proust' before. It has gorgeous, unusual flowers and, judging by information at HMF, seems to excel among ramblers in flower size, fragrance, repeat, and mildew resistance. Why isn't it better known?

  • 11 years ago
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    I don't know Michael. It's beautiful and never gets bs, the foliage is really pretty too.

    Thank you Christopher.

  • 11 years ago

    Here Edmond Proust is unbelievably vigorous and impossible to dead head. It does have a decent re-bloom.

  • 11 years ago

    True, I was looking at it today and realized there is no way I could ever deadhead it.

  • 11 years ago
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    It's a beautiful rose, but how come it's not in my book-Old Roses by Roger Phillips & Martyn Rix. Where did you find it? I want one too! :-)

    It's in my book under a different name-"May Queen"!!! I want one!!!

  • 11 years ago

    I think May Queen was bred by Dr. Brownell? I got the rose from either Ashdown or Vintage.

  • 11 years ago

    Thanks Altorama! :-) Kim might know if "May Queen" is the same as "Edmond Proust".....

    This is interesting, under May Queen on HMF http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.35316.0

    "See References to track the mixup about the breeder of this rose. Brent Dickerson's The Old Rose Adventurer debunks the existence of a 'May Queen' bred by W.A. Manda. The 1898 catalog of Conard & Jones accurately describes 'May Queen' as bred by Dr. W. Van Fleet.The American Rose Annual in 1916 lists it among Dr. Van Fleet's roses, while no such rose is listed for W. A. Manda. However, by Modern Roses V in 1958, 'May Queen' was attributed to Manda, an error subsequently perpetuated and corrected in Modern Roses 12 in 2007.

    The September 2007 issue of The New Zealand Heritage Rose Journal reports how New Zealand rosarians compared the rose in commerce there as May Queen to Edmond Proust in Sangerhausen and la Roseraie de l'Häy. It appears the rose called May Queen in New Zealand is actually Edmond Proust."

  • 11 years ago

    I still believe there were (are) two 'May Queens', one by Manda & one by Van Fleet. I've grown both & they are different. And 'Edmond Proust' is distinct from either.

    altorama Ray thanked neroseman
  • 11 years ago

    Van Fleet, right. For some reason I confuse Van Fleet and Brownell all the time.

  • 11 years ago

    Neroseman, Would you please post some photos of your 2 May Queens? I'd love to learn more about May Queen. Thanks

  • 11 years ago

    I posted a photo some time back of Manda's 'May Queen' on HelpMeFind(still there). Descrip: smallish fwrs, very double, fades magenta, fol. small, lightish green. Van Fleet's version is like the one by "gkbowood" shown on HMF. Descrip: large, flat flwrs, a bit more than semi-dbl, darker, larger foliage, occas. rebloom, magenta tints.

    altorama Ray thanked neroseman
  • 11 years ago

    Thanks Neroseman, I love the large flowered May Queen, it reblooms better. I think when I order I'd better check with nursery abut the bloom size. It look a lot like the rose I just got from Palatine-Dream Land......