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Starting from scratch in Zone 5

11 years ago

Hi we recently dug out a foundation bed on the back of our house, put in some edgers and now I'm unsure what to put in it for flowers, shrubs etc..I'm new to gardening but I know id like a mix of perennials blooming from spring to fall. Any ideas would be great. We have a rhododendron, azalea, some type of evergreen bush, & pholx that we had previously, other than that its a blank slate. Would also love some ideas on how to incorporate our back down spout and back ramp into the bed. Thanks for any help in advance.


Comments (18)

  • 11 years ago

    A few reliable summer bloomers for me in zone 5:

    Coneflowers, daylilies, salvia, clematis (vine - type 3s), roses


    A few reliable spring bloomers for me:

    peonies, clematis (type 1 and 2), daffodils, allium

    mum_rose2 thanked Michaela (Zone 5b - Iowa)
  • 11 years ago

    Where are you?

    How large is the backyard?

    Are you OK with it looking like that half the year?

  • 11 years ago

    can we have a redo on that first pic ... the bizarre angle is giving me a headache ...


    ken

  • 11 years ago

    I envision a row of peonies along the edge in the 2nd pic...

    mum_rose2 thanked Lauren W. (z5b - CNY)
  • 11 years ago

    Ken here is another picture. Hard to see now b/c of the lighting though. Thank you all for the ideas i'll have to brain storm.

  • 11 years ago

    in regard to the downspout ...


    cant see whats near.. but i would dig a french drain ... sorta ...


    get a piece of corrugated pipe ... dig a trench .... and run it out into the grass ...


    but again.. i dont know what looks like a door.. and the rest of the slope etc ...


    something like the tenth link pic ... it does not have to be all that expensive or intricate ... i wouldnt do all the true french drain stone stuff and what not ... see link below


    but do keep in mind... i am on glacial sand ... i would just be diverting.. and the sand would allow it all to disperse in no time at all ... if you have clay.. i have given you an idea.. and you will have to engineer it all out ...


    ken


    https://www.google.com/search?q=french+drain+from+downspout+to+lawn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMI07arscXHxwIVERCSCh2kaQKR&biw=865&bih=745&dpr=0.9

    mum_rose2 thanked ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
  • 11 years ago

    As for your downspout a ns ramp I'd connect the downspout and run it along side the ramp out onto the grass and plant a row of reblooming day lilies right next to the downspout. The day lilies have arching daffodil like leaves which will hide the downspout and soften the edge of the ramp. You could have all one variety or have each one with a different color. Then I'd add a few here and there in your bed

    mum_rose2 thanked dowlinggram
  • 11 years ago

    It looks to me like you need some height to cover some of the concrete foundation in some spots. How about a Weigela, flowering shrub that maxes out at around 4' tall, one variety is Wine and Roses. These shrubs are easy to find, bloom in the spring and usually have more bloom later in the season, also easy care. Possibly some Feather Reed grass? Daylilies were a good suggestion, some varieties rebloom, some bloom early, mid or late season, literally thousands of varieties to choose from. Another possibility is a compact perennial geranium for lower interest. These are all pretty easy for a new gardener.

    Sherry

  • 11 years ago
    Mad_gallica we are in Nh and have a pretty large backyard but no landscaping/hard scraping as of yet. I am trying to get this somewhat done before winter here.
  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    The second picture with the edger and the shovel leaning up against the house - how deep is that bed right there? It's hard to tell, but it looks too narrow to me. Wouldn't anything you plant there be under the house's overhang?

  • 11 years ago

    If the bed is planted with nothing but perennials, they will disappear for the winter, and it will look pretty much the same as it does now for half the year. That may be fine with you. If it isn't, you'll need at least two layers of plantings. An evergreen backdrop and perennials in front. That takes space. Unless the planting are going to be nothing more than one line of fairly small perennials, the bed has to be a lot deeper than it is currently.

  • 11 years ago

    What gallica said.

  • 11 years ago

    Just skimming through at the moment and will try to contribute more detailed ideas later, but my first thought is that bed is quite shallow/narrow, and needs to be deeper/wider. Can you bring it out a few feet?

    :)
    Dee

  • 11 years ago

    I wish it was deeper, It's only 4ft deep at its narrowest I'm not sure the hubby is willing to redo the edging at this point given its not going to be a permanent bed. Eventually we will be adding additions on out that way. Thanks everyone for the input.

  • 11 years ago

    Ah, you will be building there... so you most likely don't want to add shrubs or things that will get big and difficult to move....

    I can't quite tell from the photos for sure, but in the re-post of the first photo, is that morning sun? How much sun does this bed get?

  • 11 years ago

    diggerdee it gets full sun till noon ish than starts to taper off the bottom of bed farthest from the steps gets the most sun.

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    Mum I posted some in another thread that do well in my zone 5 and their bloom time. You may want to take a look...

    http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/3335651/need-advice-for-selecting-perennials-for-front-of-house-with-pics?n=6

    mum_rose2 thanked GardenHo_MI_Z5