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Can you change the bloom time?

11 years ago

A few of my Phal's are new and are in full bloom. After they are finished blooming I plan to repot to fresh bark. If I give them cool nights - will they set spikes and bloom again in the winter? Or will they keep their bloom time of late summer? Will I have to wait until next year to get another spike/bloom? I know last year, my older Phal's set thier spikes in Dec/Jan and I didn't see flowers till spring.

My dens (hard cane) are in full bloom, they set their spikes in May/June. Can I change that to have them bloom in the early spring? Can I safely repot some of them now? They are in black pots with lava rock. I want to switch them over to clear pots with den orchid mix from Repotme. I know Jane use to let her dry out and would rarely water in the winter, but I have always continued to water, keep in well lite area and lightly fertilize.

If I can change the spike/bloom times, how do I do it?

Is there another good source for bark mixes for Phal's and Dens?

I'm in Zone 5.

Comments (7)

  • 11 years ago

    Of course you can! Provided you have the means to control temperature, day length, watering and so on.

    Phal. blooming FAQ

    There are some Phalaenopsis that bloom at the "wrong" time of year, but I'm not sure how you go about finding them.


  • 11 years ago

    Dakota, I second arthurm. I remember not too long ago when orchid corsages were THE ultimate adornment for the formally attired American female.

    Orchid growers would have hundreds of white with colored lip Cattleya orchid plants growing in a greenhouse that was covered inside with black plastic, and banks of light bulbs on timers. They would recreate seasons as necessary to bring all those plants into bloom 10 to 12 days before Mothers Day every year. When those blooms were fully open, there would be a mad dash to cut, refrigerate, pack and ship those blooms to florists all over the country, so as many mothers as possible could feel fully dressed and appreciated on their special day. (the day after Mothers Day, any of those blooms remaining in the florists shops or the greenhouse, would instantly become worthless)

    Take it from someone who has experienced a bit of that, it was a monumental engineering feat to get that job done, but do it we did.

    There is no interest in any of that today, so I doubt there is now anyone alive who could tell you the procedures necessary to do it for WCL Cattleyas, or any other orchid.

    You will have to figure out what season to recreate, and when, to convince your plant to bloom when you desire it to. Have fun, and Good luck.....☺

    Bill

  • 11 years ago

    Okay, I'm taking a different approach. You stated your Phals were new. If you bought them in bloom, they may have been forced by the grower. So, I would suggest, cutting off any spikes and giving them a chill-down. They need to grow new leaves and roots so you might lose a year.

    Where are you, your profile doesn't tell us anything...Dakota?? If you are in a cool-down zone, you might be lucky. Otherwise, the plants might revert to a normal blooming cycle next year. Same with the hard canes.

    Unless you live in a tropical zone, I don't like to repot at this time. Light is getting shorter and its telling the plants to stop growing. You want to make these decisions in Spring when the daylight is long and the plants are in 'growth mode'.

    But, you could try it. Give both a cool down. Let us know what zone you live.


    Jane

  • 11 years ago

    Jane, I am in zone 5, Western PA

  • 11 years ago

    Can they go outside? I left my Phals outdoors until the end of September when I lived in NY. That way they got the cool night temps which started spiking. Mine always began to spike in September and would flower around December.

    I brought my Phals inside when the night temps got near 40 and stayed that way. I would bring them inside and let the spikes continue to grow in a window or under CFL's lights. If you have a sunny window, you can get the plant to bloom.

    I would put the plants outside in a shady/bright place and leave them there during the month. If the night temps drop too low, bring them in and put them back out the next day.

    I would spend the month shuffling plants inside and out all month to get those cool temps. It pays off!

    Jane

  • 11 years ago

    I would love to put them outside, BUT I have the tiny white flies and don't want them attacking my orchids! Then fighting a tough battle to get rid of them. I will put them near an open window at nite. I did that last year and they all spiked and bloomed. I think it takes a bit longer but it was worth it. I think adding additional lighting will also help

  • 11 years ago

    If it worked in the past, do the same thing.

    What white flies are you battling? Fungus gnats? Or something else inside the house or outside? Not understanding what you are talking about. Give us more info on that, we might be able to help.

    Jane

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