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Tips and Things to Remember (creating a list)

11 years ago
last modified: 11 years ago

Hello all,

First of all I just want to say WOW, there is such wealth of information here that I don't even know where to start, but the purpose of this thread is to hear from you the tips and things that we the customer should know before and during a construction. I am interested in building but to be honest, I have heard so many horror stories about it that I am really scared of doing so. I hope that with this thread we can also help others who read into it to have it, kinda like a check list (I know it could be a lot!) but in the long run I believe this could be really helpful. So I am gonna start by asking a few questions I have and then we can keep adding to it!. Again Thank you for taking your time and helping me and others figure "this" out.

1. Do I need to buy the land separately or most builder will include it in the price.
2. Do I own the land if the builder includes it?
3. When creating the contract, what are some of the most important things to write in it.
4. Should I consider having a lawyer?
5. What is the timeline that was agreed upon is not met, Can I negotiate discounts because of it?
6. What about extras costs incurred by the builder because they messed up (their fault) do they pay for it?
7. What to look when visiting the site (In case they are cutting corners). most common ones.
8. Reading, old homes where built in 2x4's, now I see 2x6's. Is that the standard? or there is other options?
9. Should you keep the plumbing close (bathrooms on top of each other)?
10. Is tankless water heaters better?
11. Geothermal Hvac?
12. Besides TV-Ethernet-Phone-Audio cables, what other ones should I consider running?
13. Is there things I could buy myself?
14. The HVAC ventilation window, is it better on the wall or floor?
15. What to look in the foundation to know they poor it correctly.
16. Going solar worth it?


That would be my questions for now. I will be adding more as they come. BTW I noticed that summerfielddesigns is the go to person here and by looking at his/her work it is amazing. SD, how can I contact you for services if anything? Thank you again!

Gabriel

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  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 11 years ago

    I will try my hand at a few of these.

    (1) As Mush said it depends on the arrangement - most tract builders sell you everything at once, some custom builders do too. Generally speaking, the more custom you are, the more likely you are to buy the land first.

    (2) Typically, you will own the land once the builder sells you the house. Long-term land leases are not something I have seen in residential construction.

    (3) Contracts typically favor the writer, so usually if you hire an experienced attorney to write a contract then it will favor you. However, it may cost a lot of money and the more opportunities for other work the builder has, the less likely he is to sign the contract your attorney prepared. My only real advice is a contract is define the work, assign responsibilities and protect both parties. Always expect the best but plan for the worst.

    (4) Absolutely.

    Before I answer anything else - "The law" of unintended consequences - are outcomes that are not the ones foreseen and intended by a purposeful action (wikipedia because I am lazy).

    (5) These are called liquidated damages and they are typically allowed within reason. There are often limits on them (they have to be related to actual costs incurred by not being finished). However, in reality these often end in unintended consequences. For example - The builder, noting that projects often run 3 months over, increases the bid price to account for the liquidated damages. The builder is now incentivized to choose expedient over quality, but this often just causes other delays. In the end, the project is 3 months over anyway, the builder is disputing the liquidated damages for every decision that you didn't make in less than 30 minutes, and the quality of the house is less than it would have been in the beginning, for savings that are largely imagined to begin with.

    (6) Really the same as 5. A builder should pay for his mistakes but you can think about builder charges in three sections (a) the money he wants to make, (b) the money he needs to make, and (c) the money he has to make. The builder will absorb some costs for mistakes during (a). He will avoid eating too far into (b), and may cut corners to do so. He will vigorously avoid dipping into (c), and getting near it will cause a lot of problems on a typical build.

    (7) You will spend hours educating yourself for every item you need to look for. The answer to this is really how much time do you have to educate yourself before you visit the site and what is important to you.

    (8) Depends on where you live.

    (9) Really it depends on your area and pricing standards. Most residential bathrooms in my area are priced per fixture (the going rate is $500/for anything that has a supply and a drain, $250 for supply only)

    (10) Really not a fan.

    (11) Really not a fan.

    (12) Run 2 to 3 Cat 6 cables to every possible television location, and a few extra cables all through your house. You don't really even have to terminate them. Just run them. Ethernet cables are currently the default distribution cable. That may change to fiber optic at some point but not yet.

    (13) Depends on your contract

    (14) Your HVAC subcontractor will help design the system.

    (15) The reputation of the builder you hired.

    (16) Not economical in most of the country. But I still like it.

    User thanked bry911
  • 11 years ago

    ##3-4: Generally speaking, many architects/builders use contracts based on standard forms, and you will save time, money, energy and good will by having your lawyer mark up their forms rather than drafting something from scratch.

    Good luck!

    User thanked Oaktown
  • 11 years ago

    @mushcreek @bry911 wow! thank you for the detailed answers, very informative I will be starting where mush said to look into, hopefully this will help others too. @oaktown thank you highlighting that!

  • 11 years ago

    I'm a newbie and watching with interest. We're purchasing land independent of the build and working through that process now, as well as interviewing builders and trying to nail down plan. I don't have answers, but good questions. I can tell you've been reading along (as I have).

  • 11 years ago

    I have been keeping a list of books recommended on this site re house planning, design, etc., and one of the titles is "What Your Contractor Can't Tell you - The Essential Guide to Building and Remodeling." Here is the amazon.com link - http://www.amazon.com/What-Your-Contractor-Cant-Tell/dp/0979983800 According to recommendations on this site and in the Amazon link, it should provide you with a good overview of the process. I have a list of books re actual design and what you want to avoid (design wise). If you're interested, I can update by way of a second email.

  • 11 years ago

    @Amanda Murphy Thank you for chiming in! It would be very informative of anything that you come across while purchasing your land to lets us know so that we can take some notes! :). @duvetcover Thank you for pointing out that book, I will certainly look into it!

  • 11 years ago

    The book is very helpful. In your contract you should have a clause that specifies the timeframe. For example, six months after site is cleared or foundation poured, which leads to a specific date. Beyond that date, the builder should pay for delay for each additional day. Unless it is unforeseen cause like natural disaster. We had that and there was delay. No our builder did not pay us, but having that did help us to put pressure on the builder and get few extra things for free. Just make sure you have something related to delay because that is the most common problem when building a custom home.

    Same goes for builders mistake. Have a specific clause in the contract. Another suggestion is to include that "home owner will hire own inspector to inspect home and builder agrees to fix issues recommended by inspector." Something similar to that. That way, if there are any major concern it will come from an inspector and you can hopefully avoid a major conflict. You can hire home inspector for any stage of the build.

    Most important suggestion I have is to hire a builder that has good reputation. They are usually not the cheapest one. Make sure you do your research before hiring a builder /GC.

    We got tankless water heater, and we love it. Its Rinnai - make sure you size it properly for the house and usage.


  • 11 years ago

    @lakeviewgirl thank you! notes taken :) and if you dont mind. Can you tell me why you went tankless? Is there a specific reason/feature that you saw convenient for you?

  • 11 years ago

    Tankless is an energy saver plus you never run out of hot water. Additionally you can be taking a shower while someone else in a different bathroom is also taking a shower. And no leaking from the hot water tank. We love our tankless and will be putting it in our new build.