Yes. The 24" was one of the first ones I looked into (and saw a 36" model on display). It's way beyond my price range at the moment. It looked well made, very sturdy and relatively easy learning curve for me to use and i liked the oven door options but the weight is almost twice what the floor is used to (old house, sturdy but no sub flooring underneath original pine floor boards). A friend in construction checked the floor and support beams and thought beams would have no problem supporting much heavier stove. But he doesn't live with the nuances of the floorboards!

What is your budget for a replacement? Are you able to get electrical to the stove area? I have a suggestion but budget may constrain it:-)

Hi homepro01,

Have 120v outlet in baseboard on wall behind existing stove. never used it (my old stove was standing pilot open burner no electricity needed) but electrician put it in just in case during the remodel some thirty years ago.

my original budget for a gas range itself was in the $1,000 - $2000 &- max area.

What are your ideas? Am most interested in your suggestions.

Knittykitty,

I can think of two options but I think I may exceed your budget slightly. Here they are:

• Option 1
• 24" gas cooktop from multiple manufacturers: Miele, Fagor, Bosch and Fisher and Paykel. They look very similar and range from $700 to $1000.
• 24" side opening oven from Fagor ($999) or 24" regular oven from Bosch ($1500)
• ikea 24" wide oven cabinet (~$100)
• a small piece of counter will be needed, also from ikea (~$75)
• This option needs an electrician to determine if you can get a 220v for the oven. I am not aware of any 24" gas ovens but there may be one from Bluestar or Viking which is beyond the budget.
• Option 2
• the only change from Option 1 to Option 2 is the gas cooktop will become a 24" induction cooktop from Wolf. I believe this unit is roughly $1200 dollars. This option will also require you to purchase induction capable cookware if you don't already own it.

These options give you an upgrade in functionality than you can find in a 24" gas range without going to the Bluestar unit.

Ajmadison is a great place to start your search. I searched under cooktops for 24" wide units and saw all the options

one of the regular posters on he has the Fagor and has spoken highly of it. You may also be able to search on eBay or Craigslist for 24" Miele and Gaggenau ovens at great prices.

Good luck!

Thank you, homepro01.

Even though your suggestions expand the budget a bit, your options, especially option 1, very much what I was "quandary-ing" but reluctant (because of cost snd what would be involved in both electrical and custom cabinetry) when I too was trying to think outside the box of gas range searches. Your outline of options makes the 'what if' surely possible. especially when suggesting an ikea cabinet size that I didn't know existed...that saves big bucks in and of itself. Do you recall what style name it is?

I'll contact an electrician to see if can do 220/240v in that space. And look at built-in 24" gas wall ovens and see what's involved/doable for under cooktop.

I've looked (online) at the Bosch and Miele products. l like both but resonate more towards the Bosch. Will look at the other brands you suggest. I read somewhere that it's better to stay with one brand when doing oven under cooktop. Does it really matter as long as installation specs coincide (checking with each manufacturer)?

You mention Blue Star again. Is this your brand of choice and from experience?

Thank you again for helping me to see that outside the box is more than doable and not a total budget breaker.

Knittykitty,

I am glad you like the options.

• There is no requirement that you stick to the same brand for cooktops and ovens. Make sure you follow the require clearances and you should be fine.
• The Bluestar comes up if you want a 24" professional range top. It is a personal option about what you like. I have cooked on Bluestars on showrooms and like them a lot. My preference is really with induction. I have both induction and gas because I did not want to ove away from gas completely but only use it for minor working and holding temperature on items when the induction cooktop is busy.
• one other thing i forgot to mention is that with any selection you make, my options or not, please consider adding a hood to your space to maintain good indoor air quality.
• Ikea does not need a style because the cabinet has no doors. It is a frame. I will add a link later to the cabinet I am referring too. You options are white or a maple color and the cabinet will barely be seen.

Good luck!

I would be careful when mixing brands for a wall oven installed directly under a cooktop. I can't speak for all the manufacturers, but I know that some maintain lists of approved combinations for wall ovens and cooktops. Straying from that list if you buy either component from one of those manufacturers could give them an excuse not to honor the warranty.

I did not know Bosch offered a 24" wall oven in the US! That must be pretty new. It's great to see more high end options for smaller ovens here. Wolf will be coming out with one as well. Looks like their steam oven so I'm guessing it will be rebadged VZug.

Hvtech,

Miele and Gaggenau have always sold 24" ovens. For a long time, they only sold 27" ovens. The 30" oven is the new addition in the last 7yrs for these manufacturers. The Miele 24" oven is supposed to be as voluminous as some 30" ovens. I have not confirmed this yet. I am a huge fan of 24" ovens. I rarely make anything large enough to fit in. 30" oven. I currently have a Miele 27" oven and like it a lot. My Turkey is usually 12lbs. I make it in the oven every so often but most of the time, I make the turkey on the smoker/grill using the rotisserie even when there is snow outside. I grill all year long:-)

Hi homepro01.

I did measurements re installation placement of Bosch 24" gas cooktop and the Bosch 24" electric wall oven under the cooktop (based on 36 1/2" counter height next to stove space), to visualize the oven display area and height at which would be opting oven door. I don't think I'd have a problem reading the displays/using the oven as undercounter installation. But ran it by Dh by marking the key heights. He was not thrilled and definitely has problem with undercounter wall oven display height.

also contacted our electrician who's on full schedule for two weeks.

the only 24" wide (or its equivalent in metric) open oven cabinet I could find in Ikea was the fyndig which is only available in Europe. Everything in the USA or Canadian site is 30" far as I could tell. but it's so basic don't understand why carpenters are saying it'll be expensive to make. Maybe they're thinking of fancy cabinetry.

you mentioned ventilation unit. I do have a wall exhaust fan in the kitchen. It's not great. I like the 24" Bosch slide out under cabinet unit for its size. Is there a big difference in effectiveness between recirculating and outside venting?

Short of a major overhaul of the kitchen that I can't do right now, I think I'm stuck with a freestanding range option.

alas the blue star is out (cost, weight) though it is very tempting. The Verona 24", bertazzoni 24" (though I think the two knob ignition might be a pain), or the blomberg (very questionable and ruled out Peerless pro bc of broiler drawer and I think I read I some of the reviews that the stove top is painted not enameled.)

have you had any experience with any of these brands? And if I am able to do a kitchen rehab in the next year or so, which brand has better selling appeal if I don't include it in new kitchen plan?

Thanks again to you and everyone who has pitched in here.

I see IKEA is no longer doing a standard 24". Another option is Barker cabinet. Around $240. They make another unit but you would have to call to see if he can customize it for 24". It is combined for the cooktop and wall oven. I would seriously look at the Fagor because the controls look easier to look down on. Also look on eBay for the 24" Miele. They come up often. There are a few owners of Verona and Bertas on the forum. Feedback has been mixed from my recollection.

Regarding recirculating versus vented hoods, it's the difference between night and day. It makes a huge difference. I have had hoods in my kitchens all my life except for about 4yrs in an apartment. I would never willingly go back to a recirculating hood. I am a very adventurous cook and make a lot of curries and spicy Asian stir fries with loads of garlic and ginger. What is the possibility to vent out in your current setting? 24" hoods maybe mainly custom hoods but I am sure there are some options. Did you consider the induction cooktop? If not, visit a showroom and play with one. I have induction and gas. I would recommend induction if you get the electrical upgrade to support it.

it's a lot to review.

Good luck!

For a cheap 24" gas range try the Avanti Elite, about $600,

http://www.goedekers.com/Avanti-DG2450SS1.html?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=pla&utm_campaign=Appliances&zmam=34103103&zmas=2&zmac=1&zmap=Avanti-DG2450SS1&gclid=CNjaz_i5l8gCFYqGfgod3DgClg

The next level up seems to be Fisher Paykel at approx $1500- check Ebay.

American makes a good 24" gas range but it weighs about the same as Bluestar but has sealed burners