Software
Houzz Logo Print
sofibebe

Super white / calacatta quartzite countertop - cleaning? Staining?

10 years ago

Hi all, looking for some advise. We recently had our kitchen redone and it looks beautiful. We went with what the stoneyard called calacatta ("quartzite")... but it seems a lot of this stone is marketed under super white. I know there is a lot of discussion on this forum about what this stone actually is. Aside from all of the issues, it is truly beautiful and i will add pictures later.

Here is my issue- i had a marble slab with rubber feet on the counter, and from moving it, the rubber feet left drag marks on the countertop which do not come out WITH ANYTHING. So thats issue one, why rubber feet marked my super shiny top.

I dont think my fabricator knows much about this stone, because he came back to seal after the backsplash work was done and then said sealing for this stone wasnt necessary. But he did use a tanez color enhancer sealer on one portion of the counter that was looking dullish (different areas of the stone have different "shine" levels, i think this is just inherent in this particular slab). Anyway, this sealer didnt do antything to affect color on this portion of the stone. However, when used on a small portion of the very highly polished island, it left an etch mark. It didnt change the color, but when directional light hits it, you see that "shadow" which we could not remove even right after! So issue number two, why the heck did sealer seemingly etch my top? Or is it because he rubbed it into that particular spot? Or is it because it was only in one apot, and aince it ia a color enhancer as well, it should have been applied to the entire piece to avoid that blotch.

Issue three is that the surface althought incredibly shiny, with directional light looks like it has greasy smudges or fingerprints all over it. Again, these dont rub out.

Issue four, i did the water drop test and it did darken in one spot after a few minutes but then evaporated dry. In another spot- a less shiny area which looks almost honed, it left a slight mark.

Oh and then he said the craziest thing- dont clean this with anything except windex (BLASPHEMY!!) OR some soft scrub or barkeepers. And then, im not sure, to cover his ass, he said this is partly a mandmade stone made from fragments, compressed, and glued together under pressure, which ive never heard of. I think pictures will help and ill add tomm as it is 1 am and this is keeping me up.

Im sitting there like... what the heck, and obviously looking for a way to clean this up that does not involve them, they dont seem like he brightest.

Any of you super white / calacatta quartzite owners have these issues? How do you clean your counters?

Should i get a professional restoring sealing company who specializes in that to come look at it and see what can be done?

Im scared to use my kitchen now!!Any suggestions would be truly helpful!!! Or if there are any professionals that can steer me in the right direction i would highly appreciate it!!!

Comments (22)

  • 10 years ago

    I have Calacatta quartzite and have never seen it marketed as Superwhite. The big issue that tends to occur is that Superwhite is often labeled as a quartzite when in fact it is usually a marble.

    Would love to see pics of the various parts of the counter you are speaking of. I can can not understand several things that your fabricator told you....use Softscrub?? Ah, I don't think so. The stone is partly man made and glued together? Huh? It doesn't need to be sealed? Yes it does. Some quartzites do not but this isn't one of them. I'm also not understanding why some of your counter is shinier than other parts.

    I typically use a microfiber rag with water, or water + a little dishsoap, or I have some Method granite & stone cleaner that I use from time to time.


  • 10 years ago

    Here are pics of Calacatta quartzite and Superwhite for reference. They do behave quite differently.

    calacatta quartzite:


    Superwhite:

  • 10 years ago

    Love your kitchen! We did similar, white kitchen with dark island and loooved the way the calacatta looks!

    Here is the shiny vs non shiny portion of the counter im talking about, its only on the one piece of slab to the right pf the sink. First picture is shiny, second is not. Its funny bc on the more matte piece, the veins are still really glossy but the rest has a more honed look. Not sure if they did something to abrade it while fabricating it.

    Its hard to see on the island right now because i get less light in the morning, but here are the track marks from the rubber feet of the baking slab i had on top of it,

    And finally, and this is very hard to see, where they put a spot of the color enhancer sealer, made a darker spot on the counter, kind of like an etch mark, but i dont think thats what it is as it didnt dull the shine of the counter, just made it like a darker shadow, that top light bulb reflection is in the center of the splotch. Im thinking it might just be because they only applied the sealer there to obscure a small scratch and no where else ("because this stone doesnt need sealer" ugh!!)

    But the rubber track marks dont come out for anything! I tried to find out more info on this stone but there is really not much. I know it etches bc of our testing, but i cant see how rubber feet made thise drag marks unless it interefered with resin if it was applied to this stone. Theres also spots on the stone, around the edges, in the middle, where bits just look hazy or smudgy.

    At this point should i just get a professional polisher/cleaner/sealer to come look at it and do something about it? I dont want to make it worse. This doesnt seem like a common stone people use, so i think not many people have much experience with it. But id like to not ruin it further.

    Does anyone have any recommendations for companies? I like in north/central jersey.

  • 10 years ago

    Heres a bigger shot of the island

  • 10 years ago

    I have to say that your counters look more like a variation of Superwhite that I fell in love with....T&M called it Superwhite Extra and it is not a quartzite, thus the etching. True quartzite does not etch. It's is drop dead gorgeous though. Here is a pic of one of the slabs of Superwhite Extra I had looked at.

  • 10 years ago

    This is why im confused, because it was labeled calacatta at the stoneyard, and therein lies the issue. So they are also spreading misinformation and lies. Because my fabricators are all up and down, quartzite, doesnt need sealer, etc. And im sitting there like, you're idiots bc obviously this one does. So basically, what youre saying is they sold me a marble lol

    I still dont know how rubber feet left drag marks on the shine though! And how the shine level is inconsistent on that one piece. I personally think they abraded it with something in the fabricating process. I have to put felt pads on everything with rubber feet!

    I intend on treating it like a marble, because i have to from everything ive learned from it. But i dont want to have to worry about staining so i need it sealed by someone competent and not these idiots. If i dont ever speak to them again it will be too soon. But i am terrified of using and ruining my kitchen!

    If i can get someone to repolish it clean to at least eliminate the haze and the drag marks that would be great and then seal it properly. But i honestly dont know where to look. I just dont want it to get worse.

    Ive also read that some superwhite has resins on top of it, and that makes it prone to these types of problems or that sealer wont penetrate. Im just so lost at what to do.

  • 10 years ago

    Sofibebe,

    I'm so sorry this happened. It sounds like you got caught in several layers of incorrect information. I don't have the answers to all of your questions, but I can help with a few.

    - Your stone isn't quartzite, regardless of the label and what they told you. This is a common mistake at stone dealerships.

    - Your stone is marble.

    - Some quartzite does need sealer, some doesn't. However, this does not matter for your situation because your stone isn't quartzite.

    - Marble generally does need sealer.

    - Your stone is absolutely beautiful! I think you'll be able to work through the problems.

    So, those are some basics to start off with.

    I'm not a fabricator, but I bet the scuff marks can be sanded out. For that matter, all the irregularities you are seeing can be sanded/polished out, a new sealer can be put on and you can go from there.

    If possible it would be nice to know what the stone has been treated with so far. But you may not get a satisfactory answer to that question.

    Yes, I would find another company to do the work from here on out.

    Yes, you need felt feet on anything you plan to slide across the counter. And don't slide things like cast iron pans because they'll scratch it.

    And I'd probably complain to the original company, because it's in everyone's best interest that they know about these mistakes so that they don't keep making them. This is a very common mixup in the industry, and the salespeople need to hear about it from the customers otherwise they won't really realize the trouble this is causing people.

    Take heart, this can be solved, and without too much trouble. Now that you know what your stone is you can treat it accordingly. And it's gorgeous!

    Good luck to you! I hope it all works out with minimal heartache and lost sleep.





  • 10 years ago

    Your description of "smudges" sound exactly like my Danby marble island when it was initially installed & sealed. In my case, it was the application of the sealer. Too much sealer, inconsistent application of the sealer - I'm not really sure but they came back & used denatured alcohol (? to remove the excess sealer) & then resealed. My countertops are also sealed with a color enhancing, topical sealer. I think these types of sealers are a little trickier to apply. I have to say that I'm pleased with the outcome. With this type of sealer, I have a little more time before etching occurs. It's a different type of sealer than Bulletproof (penetrating sealer) & I was dismayed when I realized they had used a topical sealer. My marble is in great condition (minimal etching).

    Have you spoken to the boss? Sometimes, the guys that do the installation are not the most experienced of the fabricators in a shop. I would first communicate that you are unhappy & see if someone in the shop can fix it.

  • 10 years ago

    Yep, I would call the stone yard and tell them that your stone seems to have been mislabeled as a quartzite, then I would call the fabricator and tell them that they did not do a satisfactory job in sealing and you would like it redone so it is uniform.

    That being said, that Superwhite Extra was my most favorite stone that I encountered while looking for counters. I can not even explain to you how badly I wanted it. I still like it better than my counters and I think it looks absolutely gorgeous in your kitchen! Good luck!

  • 8 years ago

    What ended up happening? I'm looking at this same stone. Here known as Calacatta super white, also Fantasy. Consensus seems to be that it is a dolomite with various degrees of quartzite and marble. Most say more resistant than marble but no where near granite. I'd just like to hear how your story finished and how living with it the past 2 years has been.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I've worked with natural and man made stones for 16 years and couldn't believe that your fabricator was so dishonest. It's true that suppliers call super white a quartzite but most of them are only salespeople that have never cut, polish or edged a stone. Any good fabricator can identify it's a marble by how its polished, handled or how easily it stains when not sealed. After seeing the pics by sink area I could tell it's a honed finish. At some point stone was repaired improperly and a temporary shine was done with some type of wax. It can be fixed but will require really polishing. Wish you the best


  • 3 years ago

    @SMD Contracting Inc

    or anyone else on here how is one to know who to entrust about what is being sold as quartzite & if it's accurate? I find it all so confusing and seemingly intentionally so. I saw an image of Calacatta quartzite on a site and now I wonder is it really a quartzite or are there any lighter ones besides Taj Mahal?


  • 3 years ago

    I’m wondering how everyone’s Calacatta quartzite is holding up? thanks for any feedback.

  • 3 years ago

    Mine looks as perfect as the day it was installed in 2013. 😊

  • 3 years ago

    Lisa that‘s wonderful! do you have any pictures of your counters? i have a Calacatta extra suede quartzite slab on hold. The stone company says it really is quartzite. I’ve asked fabricators to confirm. i really like it but don't want to have issues. Thanks!!


  • 3 years ago

    I have some of when my kitchen was first completed (can’t take any now because kitchen is not clean, lol).

  • 3 years ago

    Thanks Lisa! Your counters are beautiful. My slab leans more grayish overall i think, but has some of those squiggly lines like yours. I’m hoping it is a true quartzite that fabricates well.

    I’d post pictures of the slabs if I knew how. By the way, if you posted a messy kitchen we’d all feel better about our messes!😂

  • 3 years ago

    Lisa I keep looking at your beautiful counters! I’m getting the slab of Calacatta quartzite that I had on hold. It is so similar to yours except it has a more light gray overall look. When I went to see it again today I liked it even more. 😂 What color did you paint your cabinets? Thanks for the info.

  • 3 years ago

    Hi Lisa. Happy fourth. We just had calacatta lux installed five days ago. Love the look.

    The horror stories on Houzz however are frightening.

    Water beads as was promised on counter when they sealed but edge near sink discolored from droplets. It did fade away in about an hour.

    Have you had any problems or did you have any staining?

    How was it processed? Ours came the day after it was cut and hoping down the road I don’t experience the edge stains.

    Anything you can add is very helpful. Thank you again. Your kitchen looks fantastic! After reading all this I’d be grateful to hear your experience. Tks!

  • 2 years ago

    @thinkyoung How are your lux counters holding up? Did you get staining along the edge of your sink? Thanks!

  • 2 years ago

    Meg McCloskey I’m wondering the same. My quartzite will be installed in a few days and my anxiety level has climbed!