Tide Performance can be boosted (noticeably) with Sodium Percarbonate. I do find... that some things, do come out a little "pilled" or "fuzzy" when it's added with Tide. But... it doesn't seem to happen with (Mexican) Ariel or Persil.

Hi Pat, I spoke with P&G a good while back and after some holding the line off and on for a good while I was told its in there to neutralize the Chlorine in water and that not enough is in it to make any difference on clothing..if if get different information please let us know..Thanks Pat

When I had the sodium percarbonate, I felt I did not need to add it to Tide powder, and when I did....the laundry felt a little rough, and yes slightly "pilled".

Tide and warm or hot water with a little STPP seems to clean phenomenally well!!

For me I don't add Sodium percarbonate to Tide, if I'm going to use Tide for whites I use Tide with Bleach. .however if I'm in the mood for a different detergent for my whites I'd add the SP..wait that's a lie..I used Tide with Downy and pure SP on white towels the other day..they were brilliantly white,.. and I've used it with Tide free pods. I dunna know Pat..SP has always worked for me..whose to say why lol.

Okay. Here are my results of where Sodium Percarbonate (oxygen bleach) and Bleach Activator appear on the ingredients list on most Tide powders. I am not writing the words "Tide" or "Powder" in any of the FORMULAS.

STAIN RELEASE: Sod. Percarb. is No. 1. (Blch Act. is No. 5.)

ULTRA FREE: Sod. Percarb No. 10. (No Blch Act.)

VIVID WHITE & BRIGHT: Sod. Percarb. No. 5. (Blch. Act. No. 6.)

VIVID WHITE & BRIGHT HE: Sod. Percarb. No. 5. (Blch. Act. No. 7.)

ULTRA W/ BLEACH - CLEAN BREEZE: Sod. Percarb. No. 5. (Blch. Act. No. 6.)

ULTRA DTRG. ORIGINAL: Sod. Pecarb. No. 6. (Blch. Act. No. 10.)

ULTRA HE DTRG.: Sod. Percarb No. 10. (Blch. Act. No. 6.) (yes).

ULTRA COLDWATER: Sod. Percarb. No. 4. (Blch. Act. No. 8.)

I'm trying to show that the "With Bleach" Tide powders don't necessarily have more oxy bleach than some of the other Tide powders.

In other words, one should not have to add sodium per carbonate to any Tide powders IMHO.

Pat..P&G told me that unless its labled *with bleach* there's not enough sodium percarbonate to make any difference..that there's only a small amount in it to kill off chlorine in tap water...but who knows or understands P&G...haha.

You went to a lot of research Pat..Thank You this is interesting for sure.

That's another thing P&G told me..they said its possiable that some ingredients listed in different Tides may not actually be in the product, but do to things being processed in the same factory they can never be sure there's not trace amounts of any given product. And that by law they only have to list hazardous chemicals, so not all ingredients may be listed norlisted in order..I will try to call them Monday and tie them down to sending me this info in a email..but they are eextremely careful in what they will put in writting.

What?

If you look at the msds for each product (should be available on p&g's website) they will list the approximate percentage by weight of each ingredient they are required to disclose.

I use Chlorox for whites and sometimes switch to Oxyclean. I have no problem with pilling but the dryer screen gets more lint from disintegrating clothes. They last plenty long enough for me anyway. There is a fresh odor that I kind of like too.

Pat, can you find P&G's ingredients showing %??

I can't

The amount of oxygen bleach in regular Tide is not enough to shift stains or technically do any whitening. Like Mama said, it is most likely to neutralize chlorine in water, and to boost cleaning somewhat. It is not meant to bleach clothing! My grandmother washed in powdered Tide and Tide with bleach from the day it appeared on the grocery store shelves. She was very old school and washed everything cotton in hot (180 from the tap, no lie) with 1 1/2 scoops of detergent. Her dark colors never faded that quickly, even in super hot water and overdosing on detergent.

So, yeah, it is in all powdered Tide, and is an ingredient for good reason. Tide cleans well because it is formulated specifically to be a heavy duty detergent. It always has been, and always will be heavy duty. Until this year, for as long as I can recall, some version of Tide has been the best cleaning detergent out there according to Consumer Reports. Tide with Bleach contains more bleach and activators than plain Tide, but not as much as Persil, based on the results I get.

Absolutly agree... P&G introduced Tide as its first heavy duty detergent in 1933, and it has remained a heavy duty detergent all these years.

Joel I bet many of our gradparents washed in temps like that .

I think 120 is the concidered hot temp now days, but before the restrictions ect involving laundry practices hot was 140 and very warm was 120. Than someone decided we should reduce our energy.

Joel, could you expand on your comments about Persil over Tide Bleach? I used Persil 2 in 1 and Tide Ultra Stain Release liquid on 2 heavily soiled loads including sports clothes with body and mud/dirt. The Tide killed the Persil without the necessary double rinse. I washed in warm, which I guess is around 100 F (I am missing my thermometer), and used no additives. Mamap has mentioned that she prefers Persil for oil/grease...

Yes I do like persil 2 in 1 for oil and grease....however its the Persil Perls that have the oxygen bleach.

So if you wanted to do a test..it would be Tide with Bleach powder vs Persil Perls....not liquid Persil

https://www.pg.com/productsafety/search_results.php?searchtext=Tide&category=msds&submit=Search

When was Tide introduced? Article above says 1946?

Sorry, I should have specified which Persil. The Pro Clean Pearls are the ones with bleach action. I love them and, for me, they work better than Tide with Bleach powder. The 2 in 1 liquid contains no bleaching agents, as far as I know. The 2 in 1 is pretty good stuff, however. I have not compared it to a liquid version of Tide. I despise liquid Tide, in all variations. I bought some of the HE liquid version once with a coupon, off the clearance rack. Never again....I did not like it for several reasons. This liquid 2 in 1 Persil I would most certainly recommend for a liquid detergent over Tide. In fact, I have gotten better results with 2 in 1 liquid than I have with plain powdered Tide. Your milage may vary, however....

Tide originated in 1946, just in time for the huge boom of automatic washers. It was purposefully invent to replace soap, and all the problems that come with it. Dreft was released in 1933, as P & G's brand new synthetic detergent (Not soap) for baby laundry.

I'm sorry..1933 was Dreft...Tide was 1946

Sorry I looked at my notes too quickly..lol

I don't know what's up with my head lately, I do use sodium percarbonate with Tide original at times and Tide with Downy. ..but never with Tide with Bleach.