Here are photos of the problem

That last photo did it for me;( Is the fabricator taking any responsibility in this??

Not yet but we are upset

Before you blame the fabricator, I'd like to see more pics. Farm style sinks of any type must be planned in conjunction with cabinetry from the very start of the kitchen. The photo appears to show no room for this sink to move BACK, unless your photos are hiding five or six inches behind the faucet. It may be a case of if you were stuck on that sink selection, with those (whatever they are ) dimensions.....your cabinets may have needed to be offset from the wall on install and before a template was made for the counter tops and subsequent sink install, allowing a deeper than standard 26" counter top. Show another picture of sink with a "top" view inclusive of faucet and space behind the faucet.

There are 8 inches from sink basin to wall

5 inches behind where facet is to the wall

We also bought sink first before countertops and cabinets. Fabricator had the sink when he was cutting.

Not trying to start a fight with him just looking for a solution at this point.

I also know they are not going to want to change it so it would be helpful to know this was done wrong

It has nothing to do with the stone fabrication. Stone fabricators are not Kitchen Designer's. It's a major Design Fail. Who did this poor design?

The kitchen is not suited to a farm sink. Much less that farm sink. It is much too large for the space. Your designer should have told you this. Bi-fold Susan doors cannot go next to any appliance or cabinet that projects beyond the normal plane of the cabinet box. i.e. no farm sink at all can go next to the corner cabinet.

The entire kitchen would need to be redesigned with different cabinets entirely, and an entirely different corner design. As in a voided corner. Or a virtually inaccessible blind corner that might as well be a void corner.

There is NO fix but to replace/redo the counter top or at least a portion. Did you have a general contractor present when the template was made for the top? Was a cut in the sink cabinet necessary to accommodate the sink......and it wasn't accounted for? I fear your only recourse is to re-do. .....and seeing that the top turns a corner, hard to say from photos how much of it may need to be re-done. Perhaps a new cabinet and different sink the better long term solution. If you had design help with the kitchen....I would be screaming. OUT LOUD.

So what happens if we live in a world where my entire kitchen can not be redesigned? (That is my world)

We are trying to find a sink that doesn't stick out as much and are considering making him cut even 1/2 an inch more to faucet. That would give us an inch and 1/2

You live with it as is. Or, if you did the design, as seems likely, you pay for a new sink cabinet, a new sink, and new counters. You can't replace the sink without replacing everything else.

I picked out sink yes. My countertop guy picked how it was going to sit against counter top. I know I should have told him what to do but hindsight 20/20

The countertop has not been set so replacing the sink is still possible and what we are trying to do. The contractors are trying to suggest set the sink back further and create more of an over hang on faucet side. I think that is a mistake and will cause broken dishes.

It's not the depth of the sink pulled forward on the sink that is the main problem. It's the fact that it's a farm sink, period. Any projection beyond the frame of the cabinet will interfere with the ability of the Susan door to open properly. You will have a clearance issue no matter what you do. The easy and cheap thing is to do nothing.

Have you found another sink that will work with the cabinets and the countertop as currently cut?

Julie,

I template many kitchens on a monthly basis with farmhouse sinks.

I always request that the sink be in place at the final measurement/template. So that I can see how it actually fits in the cabinet, as most cabinets are not designed with that particular sink in mind. Then I decide based on how the sink looks where the granite cuts should be done. You cannot simple go based off a paper template from manufacture to base your cuts off of. This way these kind of oversights are avoided.

At this point the most important thing is to find a solution that you can live with and not go thru move inconvenience.

If I was presented with this problem I would either take off 1/2-3/4 from back and fabricate and polish on site. The person doing this should be his most skilled fabricator and they should take extra measures to minimize dust/water mess.

Or if you have the space and tolerance on overhangs. You could cut back 2-3" all the way to the end of faucet hole and set back the sink furthen, then redrill faucet hole.

Careful planning and execution is crutial for this fix.

good luck!

-Jason

It does not seem to me that the lazy Susan door is a problem. It opens enough for you to use it, and, as mentioned above, it would not open completely next to any farm sink. However, the sink is clearly too far forward. Did the counter fabricator attach the sink to the counter? Because it is my understanding that farm sinks should rest on the cabinet and be installed prior to countertop fabrication. Maybe that is not true for stainless farm sinks. Check the sinks instructions and template.

All farm sinks should be supported and installed to the desired pull at template time. That is the role of the cabinet installer. Then the stone templater templates to the sink, as it is set in the cabinet. It is not the role of a stone template to make alterations to how a sink is set into the cabinet, unless there are structural considerations involving the stone. Then he discusses that with the GC and designer first.

And that is why this is an overall design failure. No one with the whole picture of the interactions of the different elements, including clearances and reveals, designed the kitchen. When there isn't a designer or GC checking everything, that just means that the homeowner has assumed the responsibility for those rules. Including the responsibility to pay for the errors that the lack of knowledge created.

I defer to the experts on the sink issue, but on the lazy Suzan door, can the hinges be moved to the right side so it would open to the right? Just a thought.

@sophie My fabricator and my cabinet builder are the same team. Again I understand I should have been looking out for potential issues but I also don't understand why they would have made the design choice to set the sink so forward other than having less edge inside the sink to fabricate.

We are prepared to buy a new piece of Quartz to have the situation corrected if it can't be fixed with an inch here or there. The recommended placement of the sink is in the instructions and he made a design choice to go over 2 inches over that. He needs to assume some responsibility for that and at least do the work to fix it.

Either way I know it's going to be a hard conversation to have.

I have same sink and cabinet set up. Pretty sure it's Kohler 36 inch stainless farmhouse sink. I have no problems with lazy Susan. The back of counter is 5 1/2 inches from wall and overhang is 2 inches. Counter is not done correctly. Go back to your provider and get a redo.

Please do yourself a long term favor. Redo/rebuild/re/order ONE sink cabinet, get an under mounted stainless sink, SPLIT the major error for the counter top with the fabricator and move on. When elements are chosen in isolation, ( "gee I looove that sink") and no designer is responsible for the overall design, how all will work, function, be placed etc, you run into trouble. As you did. A cabinet guy is not a designer, a contractor is not a designer. The kitchen will suffer no loss of looks with a more practical choice.

As someone wisely said, "If you think design help is too expensive, see how expensive it can be without it" No truer words spoken.......

You have partial overlay cabinets rlascowsi. That basically means that you have a built in "filler" between the corner cabinet and sink cabinet. Even then, you can have issues with someone opening the door without care.

All cabinet manufacturers will caution against using a corner susan against a deeper object. And yours is against two. The sink and the range.

This kitchen really needs an undermount sink. Not a farm sink.

Great news!