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Planting summer bulbs in fall?

10 years ago

I know its not optimal but I have lots of summer bulbs that desperetly need to be planted. All the bulbs I wish to plant are winter hardy where I live(zone 7). And, I'm not sure if I should plant my summer tender bulbs because I don't know if they'll survive. Should I go ahead and plant my summer bulbs and just mulch the soil really well?

Comments (14)

  • 10 years ago

    I have Gladioli, Acidanthera, Freesia, oriental Lilly, Asiatic Lilly, Liatris, canna, allium, and astible

  • 10 years ago

    Astilbe is not a bulb - go ahead and plant now. Same with the liatris, alliums and lilies. All the rest should be either stored over winter in a cool (35-45F), dry location or potted up in a container and overwintered in a similar situation.

    mattfranklin_rose thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 10 years ago

    Glads (including and especially acidanthera), freesias and cannas I wouldn't expect to overwinter under normal circumstances in USDA 7. But if any of these bulbs etc. were on schedule to be planted last spring I wouldn't expect any of them to be necessarily viable going a second winter without having had a growing season in between - you may have to pot them up now and try to grow them on a sunny windowsill, if a more suitable environment (like a bright, cool or intermediate greenhouse) is not available.

    mattfranklin_rose thanked Embothrium
  • 10 years ago

    All of the plants I listed I know can survive winters in my location even outside microclimates. But. I don't have place to grow them but the flower bed itself. What I really need to know is if the glads will survive without having established roots if I heavily mulch and add rooting hormones to the bulbs?

  • 10 years ago

    The main thing is keeping the frost away with the mulch, which may need to be extra deep - and can be made shallower in the spring. And, again, I wonder if they have now missed a growing season they needed to have in order to be able to grow again next year. In which case planting them outside now would be a waste of time, as they will not be able to grow outside during the winter.

    Rooting hormones I definitely wouldn't use on bulbs, they already have the ability to grow roots.

    mattfranklin_rose thanked Embothrium
  • 10 years ago

    They are all still in their packaging, so they definetly have not had a growing season in a while. But, if I did mulch the soil really thick they could survive winter and start growing in spring?

  • 10 years ago

    Not if they have in fact gone too long without a growing season. Me, I would just start over with fresh stock at the right time.

    mattfranklin_rose thanked Embothrium
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks so much for the help. I am going plant half of the glads retailer and half next spring to see my turn-ouy.

  • 10 years ago

    Theoretically, the glads, acidanthera, freesias and cannas should be winter hardy in your climate but even in my much milder zone, these bulbs do not fair very well if left in the ground after a normal planting time and growing season. Planting now, in cold soils, exposed to the moisture levels most winter soils maintain and having no established root system is just not very likely to produce any sort of positive results. Without roots (and they will not grow roots in cool/cold soils at this time of year), the bulbs/tubers are more inclined to rot than do anything else. That's why these sorts of bulbs are not commonly sold in time for fall planting but rather in very early spring. Combine that with concerns that these bulbs seem to have been held/stored for an extended period of time and at probably less than ideal storage conditions, I think your chances of success are slim.

    If you have no garage, cellar or cool/unheated basement to store the bulbs in a potted condition - the preferred approach - go ahead and plant now. But do not be surprised if this generates very iffy results.

    mattfranklin_rose thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 10 years ago

    So, I have a garage that is unheated, and I think I can make some space for pots. Should I just pot them at the recommended depth and store them in a cold dark area. And should I keep the soil moisture?


  • 10 years ago

    And I have some unplanted dahlias?

  • 10 years ago

    Potting soils should be just barely moist to the touch - very little water is required. And make sure the garage does not dip too far below freezing.

    I store all my not fully hardy summer bulbs this way. Including dahlias - although fully ground hardy in my climate, they just get off to a very late start in spring because of how slow soil temps are to warm up. So I speed up the process by growing them in containers, which can be moved outdoors to heat up earlier than one would expect ground soil to do.

    Before you go to all the trouble of potting up and storing for winter, make sure the bulbs/tubers/corms are in good planting condition - free of rot (no mold, sunken mushy spots, etc.), not shriveled or dessicated and are not soft but firm to the touch when squeezed gently but firmly. If they show any of these characteristics, they are very likely history and should be tossed.

    mattfranklin_rose thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks so much!!!!

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