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Vermicompost and starting plants in poor conditions?

10 years ago

I've been cold composting in place where I want to garden next spring... smothering the sod with cardboard, adding what I can for nitrogen and carbon, etc. The soil food web is moving back in, I've begun spotting lots of isopods, soil worms, and fungal growth in the area. But the breakdown is slow, and it's winter now. I've tried burying the areas in wood chips from a tree trimming service to insulate against the freeze, but I don't expect my compost to be finished before spring planting.

I tried adding a few ENC here and there to the cold compost sheets, but I don't have anything like the worm population (yet) to eat all of that down.

I'm wondering if vermicompost can help me get plants started where I don't quite have soil yet. What might happen if I took a little vermicompost from the worm bin, wrapped it around a seed or the roots of a young plant, and set it into place under the wood chip mulch, onto the unfinished compost? Could the stuff give the young plants the strength to send roots down through rotten cardboard, dead grass and veggie scraps, and into the hard clay below?

Comments (12)

  • 10 years ago

    I too am cold composting as the hot composting is not working as well as Id like. I have this in 4' square box about 2 1/2' high and like you hope its done enough I can plant something in there. Not sure at this time what it will be.

  • 10 years ago

    Generally, when sheet composting directly on top of the garden soil, it is recommended to dig through the layers to plant into the actual soil, rather than planting into the non-composted layers. Keep the composting material pushed aside so the seedlings can get sun. Adding finished vermicompost directly to the soil/planting hole would certainly give the growing plant or seed an advantage. You may find gardeners who will transplant potted plants into the composting layers, but those plants have at least some growing medium around their roots.

  • 10 years ago

    Do you have municipal composting? I can go to the county composting facility and bring back an entire van full of bins of free compost.

    Re: using vermicompost--I usually dilute the compost and water with it. But I have to be selective, as I only have one bin, and my worms don't produce enough to use all over the garden.

  • 10 years ago

    Think I might need a post hole digger and a sledgehammer this spring.

  • 10 years ago

    Yes I too can go and get free compost from the city which I did once but was not satisfied with it. It had to be just leaf litter and some debris.

    Last year I turned over new ground for gardening plants grew but soil was a light sandy brown at end of season. So I went to a place near me and got two cubic yards of compost for about $50. The place told me when they recieved the stuff it stunk to high hell so Im guessing it had some kind of manure in it. I feel really good about my upcoming garden in the spring.

  • 10 years ago

    Could of also just been anaerobic...

    We get free composting yard waste from the city lot... I always get the stinky stuff from the bottom of the pile by digging a hole to it, we bring it home and finish composting it before adding it to the garden... it usually finishes very quickly.

  • 10 years ago

    I doubt it when I brought it home and tilled it in about a week later I saw worms coming into it , previously I just didnt have any worms in my sandy soil

  • 10 years ago

    Google "lasagna gardening" - maybe something there will help?

  • 10 years ago

    One problem of lasagna gardening is it works with the assumption that you already have some workable compost or soil to plant into while you wait for the rest to break down. If you don't, it's not really applicable.

  • 10 years ago

    i lasagna garden. we have glacial till here, so i i put newspaper, grass clipp9ings, compost and kitchen waste (uncomposted), cardnoard, coffee grounds, etc. in layers right on the rocks. then i cut into the layers and plunked plants in there. everything did well.

    carol

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Rosecanadian, are you saying you planted into the material before it broke down, and it worked?

    How much of this stuff was already compost?

  • 10 years ago

    Yes. One or two of my layers was soil - but only about 4 inches total of soil. Compost was probably the least - since I didn't have huge amounts of compost. So maybe 1/2 inch total. I didn't plant roses, because all of my roses stay in pots, and the amount of "lasagna" (with rocks underneath) was only about 14 inches high. So I planted my perennials in there in the spring, and they did wonderfully. Although, I knew that I had put down stuff that would get hot from composted where I had placed it, so I kept the area moist. Hope that made sense. :)

    Carol

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