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Building in the summer

10 years ago

I'm now starting the process of getting a permit to build a home on my dads property. I want to build something between 40x80 and 50x100. 30 feet of that would be garage, and the other 50-70 feet would be living area. If I did 40x80, I would probably have some sort of loft. 50x100 would probably be all one level. I was thinking about a wood framed building, with the metal ribbed panels for the roof and walls outside. The whole thing will have at least 3 inches of polyurethane foam insulation with a geothermal system set up for floor heat. (North Dakota). My question is, would anyone recommend going with a steel frame building instead? Does anyone know of any good design places for similar homes? I would like 4-5 bedrooms and an open setup for the kitchen-living room. Any opinions are greatly appreciated. Thank you!

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  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    If you're thinking about something very simple and mentioned metal buildings Google 'barn homes.' You can also look at 'lockwood.co.nz' and 'concepthome.com.' Those are two of my favorite house plan sites, and I believe both are out of New Zealand. They're a little modern but are very simple and usually have open floor plans. You will just have to convert meters to feet.

    Since you mentioned you will build in ND and your insulation I thought I would mention this from Greenbuildingadvisor.com:

    "However, the most earth-shaking changes found in Table 402.1.1 are the wall insulation requirements for climate zones 6, 7, and 8 — an area that includes Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine. In these zones, the 2012 code calls for above-grade walls to have at least “R-20+R-5” insulation or “R-13+R-10” insulation.

    The table includes the following footnote explaining the wall R-value requirements that include a “plus” sign, including the requirements for climate zones 6 though 8: “[The] first value is cavity insulation, [the] second is continuous insulation or insulated siding, so ‘13+5’ means R-13 cavity insulation plus R-5 continuous insulation or insulated siding. If structural sheathing covers 40 percent or less of the exterior, continuous insulation R-value shall be permitted to be reduced by no more than R-3 in the locations where structural sheathing is used – to maintain a consistent total sheathing thickness.”

    http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/overview-2012-energy-code

    Now the pros on GW will tell you code is the minimum you should build to. We are working with an architect now and will hopefully start in the Spring in NE Iowa. We're shooting for around R42 in the walls.

    Good luck.

    ETA: We also looked into putting up a metal building for a house, but we realized it was going to be a wash with the way we would finish it.

  • 10 years ago

    If you're building on a slab and have floor heat, plan on insulating under the slab as well. Otherwise, you are trying to heat the whole planet. Actually, any slab in just about any climate should be insulated.

    It's been found that air infiltration is as big a factor as insulation, so consider that when choosing a building system. I don't know if you have building codes and inspections to deal with, but 3" of foam is nowhere near enough, even for code minimum.

  • 10 years ago

    Shane,

    I would also look at ICF or SIPs construction as well.


    Fred

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Contact a local architect. They will have knowledge of building methods suitable for your region.

  • 10 years ago

    metal framing conducts heat/cold very well.

    to keep the thermal transfer from happening, you have

    to provide a thermal break.

    one way to do this would be to put foam sheathing on exterior

    of studs/rafters, then attach metal panels over the foam sheathing.


    otherwise the metal framing heats up/cools down and reduces the

    performance of the insulation between studs.


    or spray foam insulation in joist/rafter bays.


    best of luck

  • 10 years ago

    Our home is standard framing with ribbed metal for the exterior. It took a bit more to put purlins between the studs. My husband wanted metal siding for durability, so that's what we got. In my eyes its just an exterior choice like brick and vinyl.