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10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

Feel free to post pics as well!I will try to explain the conditions to get these hoyas to bloom,although most will bloom when they feel like it.H polyneura just opened the other day!It bloomed once during late summer,then some of the leaves started to yellow and growing came to a halt.I gave it some Osmocote Plus sprinkled on top of the soil,along with some Super Plant Tonic from Blue Mountain Organics,which has lots of good microorganisms for the roots.Is seemed to work ..growing and finally blooming again!I have it under LED lights under normal house conditions,so high humidity is not a factor in getting this species to bloom.The original EA soil the plant comes in retains moisture too long and would always set the plant back with lots of yellow leaves and halted growth,so now I have some of the cuttings in a mix of one part grow-stones,one part long coir fiber (Botanicare brand),and some bio-char thrown in,although worm castings would prob just work as well..just to keep all the good microbes happy.here are some pics...


Comments (42)

  • 10 years ago

    Unbelievably beautiful. The leaves are such a unique healthy green. Love the veins in them. Nice job

    robin

  • 10 years ago

    So pretty, Jimmy!

  • 10 years ago

    Wow! Beautiful Jimmy. How long did you have the plant before it bloomed for you?

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks everyone!these are 2 year old cuttings I took from a large hanging basket of polyneura I bought back at Lowes years ago.The basket died,but was able to get these cuttings to bloom!

  • 10 years ago

    Love the leaves of the Perak! I may have to be on the watch for that one!


    Denise in Omaha

  • 10 years ago

    What Denise said! Is it fragrant, Jimmy?

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks!No smell as of yet.It appears there are not too many photos of this hoya in flower.The Thailand hoya club has photos of this along with Epiphytica's site.Same #SR-2009-003 but the pics of the blooms show a different color corona.One is red in the center like mine and the other totally cream color...strange.

  • 10 years ago

    Once again, I am so taken by the leaves! One day I will post a bloom myself. Those are beautiful!

    robin

  • 10 years ago

    I love all the hoya blooms! Fragrant or not.

    Thank you for giving me hope on this two polyneura plants i have.

  • 10 years ago

    No problem...take a few cuttings and root them in your mix and see whats happens.When rooting in winter,bottom heat,12 or more hours of supplemental light and humidity works best.

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    10 years ago

    I too struggled with the EPC-966 Hoya sp. Perak but my story ended sadly...I lost it :0(. But now that I see the photo of the blooms...it appears very similar to my H. sp. Lata Iskandar which I've grown for quite some time now. No red corona spotted but this could just be a sport of the same species?

  • 10 years ago

    Hi Joni!You are prob right.I believe both plants were collected in Perak.I'm glad the one I got from Epiphytica is the one I wanted!I saw the flowers on his home page and had to order it.I'm always up for a trade when the weather gets warmer!I have a few the are on your retired page.I may place one more order with them in the spring,but it will prob be my last..no more room!lol Here is a nice close up pic of the flowers.



  • 10 years ago
    H elliptical just opened its buds this evening!First time blooming inside with 35%humidity.I thought this hoya needed more humidity to set buds,but I guess not.I have it in a self watering planter under 12 hours of just led lights.
  • 10 years ago

    Jimmy, your plants are just gorgeous! Thanks for posting those pictures.

    H. sp. SR-2009-003 and elliptica are both at the top of my want list. Does sp. SR-2009-003 have any special requirement for growing?

    Also, which elliptica is this one (accession/catalog #)?

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks!I ordered this one from SRQ a few years ago.It is either clone a or b...prob the easier one to grow since I lost the other one last summer.I let H. sp. SR-2009-003dry out between watering and have it in a net pot with another pot around it so the edges of the net pot don't get too dry.The hardest part was reviving it after the trip from Thailand.With elliptica ,I have it in a fast draining mix in a self watering pot.You don't want this one to get bone dry because the roots will die fast.That's what happened to the other one i had.Some of the roods died from lack of water,and when i watered it again the dead roots rotted and eventually spread through the whole plant pretty quickly.My remaining one is doing great,but I'm gonna take a few cutting to root soon just in case.I can give you one in the spring time if you want.I'm letting H. sp. SR-2009-003 grow in some more before i take any cutting from it.It's somewhat rare in the US for now!

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks for the info, Jimmy. OMG, I would love to have a rooted elliptica. It is my *heart* Hoya. I have already killed one cutting. I am getting one rooted cutting soon, and I am also thinking about ordering a few cuttings from Epiphytica. I would like to have different varieties. I heard they travel very poorly, so it would be so nice to get a rooted cutting from within the US. I don't have anything interesting to trade with, but please let me know whenever you're ready, so we can discuss what I can do. I thought about growing them in Hydroton semi-hydro, but now I'm going to look for self-watering pots.

    So sp. SR-2009-003 likes to be dry. Somehow, I imagined it to be like caudata which I hear likes to be more on the moist side. I just love the Jurassic leaves with the baby chick cupcake flowers.

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks!I'm not sure what family of hoya it belongs too,but i find that this one likes to dry out between waterings.I water this one once a week in the winter months.caudata loves water! I find that it will abort its buds it not kept almost wet during bud formation.I water it twice a week when in bud making sure to get all of the soil wet.I now have started to add small amounts of molasses and or kelp and Great White mycorrhizae to help the buds develop to maturity.still experimenting but i,m seeing results!!

  • 10 years ago
    H.caudata blooming under led lights.
  • 10 years ago

    Dang, look at those fuzzy blooms. Be My Valentine, Jimmy! ;)

  • 10 years ago

    Haha...you single Tawny..lol.Here is one just for you!Hoya danumensis bloomed last month and just now posting the pics!Another hoya that loves the pinkish hue of the led lights!


  • 10 years ago

    God, you can make anything flower, Jimmy. It's so nice to see so many different flowers. Moar please!

  • 10 years ago
    H subcalva is flowering again!This one would keep blasting it's buds,and I though it was a watering problem.It could of been a ph problem with my hard water.This time I added molasses and Great White (good microbes) to the water and the buds took off almost doubling in size overnight!I need to do more testing to come to a theory, but it appears that the microbes help the buds to set,either by lowering ph,or maybe by decreasing the nutrient lockout by the high ph of my water.there could also be a spike in microbial activity with all the molasses for them to eat.There byproducts are food for the plant,that can be used instantly which could explain the doubling in the size of the buds oveenight...More testing needs to be done to see of there are any patterns. ..maybe I just got lucky this time...lol
  • 10 years ago

    AAAMAZING!! I'm super interested in this mycorrhizal fungi stuff you mentioned. I think it'll help organic fertilizer work better in the gritty mix. I'm going to try it. Thanks for mentioning it!

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks! Great White is my go to brand,although i just ordered another kind that is cheaper.It has less types of the microbes though,but higher concentrations of the ones that are in it compared to Great White.The main reason i use it is because of root rot issues.It really helps strengthen the plant root and immune system.You may still get a yellow leaf here and there,but no major issues where the plant dies in a matter of days.It works best with organics,but will also work with reg fertilizers.It will eat away all the salt buildup with reg fertilizers.Here Is the link to my new products will be trying this spring.http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00J1CAEIG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00  and a new fert. for acid loving plants http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00938IWLE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00

  • 10 years ago

    That's so cool, Jimmy. I wish we could smell the blooms! Have you ever read Mycelium Running, by Paul Stamets? It's really interesting and discusses how plants communicate via mycelia and vice versa.

  • 10 years ago

    Looks interesting..ill see if they have it on Amazon prime...thanks!

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks, Jimmy, the new one (Recharge) sounds even better.

    Tawny, the book does sound interesting. Fungi rock! (most of them)

  • 10 years ago

    Jimmy, FYI, if you haven't ordered the "Recharge" yet, if you get it from the manufacturer's website, the shipping is free, and there's a 25% coupon code ("capn") here: http://dudegrows.com/captain-uses-recharge/

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks for the link!I'll bookmark if for future reference.I already bought if off Amazon.I really think these types of products help regulate the pH and help combat the effects of using hard tap water.

  • 10 years ago

    I just got a plant with several blooms. It came from FL. Should I fertilize as long as there are flowers?

  • 10 years ago

    I wouldn't...wait till it's done flowering.Too much fertilizer will cause it to start growing leaves and may not form new buds from the peduncles.

  • 10 years ago

    OK Jimmy. Thanks.

  • 10 years ago

    Jimmy, I just found out the coupon is now only for 15% off.

  • 10 years ago
    H. dennisii has two flowers this time.It's been flowering on and off for a while now,but it needs extra humidity to flower, so it stays in the grow tent!
  • 10 years ago
    H elliptica will be blooming again soon!Maybe first day of spring?We will see..looks like two peduncle will open at the same time...here is one of them.
  • 10 years ago

    Wow, I've never seen dennisii before. So cute! Is the corolla fuzzy? They kinda look both fuzzy and shiny in the picture. And AWWW, always and forever lovely elliptica.... *sigh* Thanks for posting these, Jimmy. I enjoy your pictures so much.

  • 10 years ago

    Gah, so darling Jimmy!

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Super nice plants and blooms, Jimmy. I agree with you mockturtle ! those elliptica leaves are just ... wow.

    I, too, just learned about the benefits of microbes around the roots and got Great White and Hi-Brix Molasses for plants and in less than 10 days, they all look perkier and the leaves have more stiffness in them. Funny after thought, that concoction smelled exactly like Superthrive.

    Marco

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks guys! Dennisii's flowers are slightly fuzzy...the corolla is not...no smell and the size of a nickle.I bought this one from Thailand a few years back.i think microbes are the way to go if you use tap water and grow in a mostly inorganic medium like most hoya growers do.Most of the ingredients take years to break down and are not soil like...but that's what we want for more oxygen to the roots.without the microbes..over time,i believe the lime and calcium deposits will build up in the medium...leading to nutrient lockout because the whole medium just becomes to alkaline for the plant to take in nutrients.Soil acts as a pH buffer,but being most hoyas like to be root-bound in small pots with a minimum of soil...there is not much buffering effect.With the microbes and organic additives like fish,seaweed,molasses,humic acid...the medium becomes more active with the microbes bringing down the pH naturally,by eating the organics,lime,salts and giving the hoya instant food,I've noticed lots of new green growth and small peduncles since I've been adding the microbes twice a month instead of every other month.I bought one of those 15$ pH pens and have been testing my water and runoff water from the bottom of my containers and the water that comes out is lower then what i put in which is a good thing! My water right out of the tap is a whopping 8.6 pH it goes down to 7.5 in 24 hours...which is still quite high.With the molasses and great white...it's in the high sixes,which is ok.I now use a natural pH down(citric acid granules) when I use reg water between feedings.It literally only takes a pinch(1/16 of a teaspoon per gallon) to bring the water down to 6. I'm gonna be trying this pH down for a while to see of there is any improvement in the long run.I've been talking to Doug about pH issues and nutrient lockout,continual bud blast etc....he is doing his own comparison on some of his hoyas with microbes as well.

  • 10 years ago

    I want to gradually switch to using tap water to water my Hoyas. My city has hard water too. I don't want to buy a RO filtering system. I was going to just let the water sit for a day or two to let the chlorine dissipate. It's good to know adding microbes help.

  • 10 years ago

    Adding a tablespoon of vinegar to a gallon of water lowers the ph too.

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