Rose Order for Spring

10 years ago

I'll be revamping my zone 6a Massachusetts rose garden and removing most of the David Austins :-(, which I love for scent and flower form, but I'm really tired of their constant bare legs and refuse to pamper any of my roses. I'll be keeping Windemare which gets very little bs, Heritage and St. Cecelia (bs like crazy but she just keeps flowering and smells delicious!!)

My list for this year is almost exclusively Kordes roses since the ones I have have been nearly carefree. Even though we have seen temps in the teens here many still have healthy leaves!!

So here's my list:

additional - Poseidon, Fire Opal, Innocencia Vigorosa and Julia Child

New additions- 2 of each

Solero, Earth Angel, Savannah, Blush Veranda, Larissa, Madame Anisette, and possibly South Africa since she gets such rave reviews.

Any thoughts, comments and experience in growing these roses is always appreciated.

Think Spring :-)

sharon

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

10 years ago

I love my Kordes roses also Sharon. From your list I grow Julia Child not a Kordes rose but is wonderful here. Give her as much sun as possible she likes it and is her healthiest.

Fire Opal, Innocencia and Solero are splendid here for me. Love them! The last two I have 7 of each.

Have many ordered for this spring. From your list Madame Annistte and Savanna are included.

Depending on your weather and humidity levels there are two on your list that you may not like.

Blush Veranda is very good in dry areas. It was a disaster here. I kept that one for 3 years as bush wise she was a good rose and very healthy. I had never before shovel pruned a healthy rose. But did not see one flower that was not damage in my humid summer weather. Most would bull nose or proliferate. Those that did not would rot.

I had a rose back at the same time called Pompon Flower Circus aka Pompon Veranda bred in 2003. When I saw Earth Angel it bore an uncanny resemblance too Pompon Veranda so I researched this rose as I wanted too get it. It also was bred in 2003. Hmm, I see no difference between the 2 roses and believe they are indeed the same rose. I will say it was very healthy but sadly behaved just like Blush Veranda. The flower was a disaster in my area.

I don't wish too discourage you but you might wish too try one of each and see how they do. I've had Earth Angel on my list, then off my list, then on/off, on/ off, It's off and I'm certain it will not work here.

I do believe that you would love Floral Fairy Tale as an own root rose. It is a beauty and continuous bloom here. As an own root it stays between 2 and 3 feet. I have heard reports of it growing much larger when grafted on multiflora.

Good luck with your choices, I love my Kordes roses.

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huckdog1
10 years ago
Sharon, please do get South Africa...it is such a beauty. Your list sounds wonderful. I did start my new rose list...dug my holes this past fall...and can`t wait.for spring. From Rosemarie i have Pretty Lady Rose,Oh My, and another Munstead Wood. From Regan, I have Bella`roma,Princess Alexandra of Kent, and another Queen of Sweeden. Heirloom will send White Diamond! I could probably fir one or two more in, but no decisions yet.
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enchantedrosez5bma
Original Author
10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago
Hi Huckdog, South Africa is VERY hard to find. i only want own root and no one has it. RU, Chamblee's are sold out already :(

Patty W- thanks for the feedback on Blush Veranda and Earth Angel and the info on Floral Fairytale. I'm looking for short roses so this one seems like it would work. How was she for bs? Do you grow Cream Veranda? I read that it black spots a bit but Kordes rates it 4 star for black spot resistance. They look similar in flower color although I've seen pics where FFT looks more pink. Any experience with Jolie Veranda? In some pics she looks dark pinky salmon in others very orange.

I'm trying to order from mostly one place for shipping reasons but RU, who has lower shipping costs to the North East, doesn't have Fire Opal which I love so I have to order this from Chamblee's.

I have Julia planted in about 4 hours of shade and she is still a blooming machine and smells luscious!!! Definitely need more of her :-)
Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
10 years ago
I was wondering also about South Africa as the own root nurseries have dropped it. It is possible that will not grow as an own root rose.

Sharon, I do grow Cream Veranda and she has never had bs here. In spring she has apricot tones. In summer it is cream colored and in fall it picks up pink tones. FFT is more apricot year around. The blooms fade to cream in about too days. I don't see the pink tones like I do in Cream Veranda. FFT is healthy as a horse a perfect rose. At least that how I feel about it.

According to the vigorous and healthy growth that I've seen in Fire Opal. I'm guessing this rose will be 31/2 to 4 feet tall and bushy. It's leaves are a lovely apple green and they hang downward a bit like some apple trees do.

Funny you should mention getting more JC. I went on a mission for a while trying to find more yellows like JC. In the end I ordered five more JC's. There's not really anything out there thats any better for me anyway.
enchantedrosez5bma
Original Author
10 years ago
re JC. I agree, beautiful color, healthy growth, almost non stop bloom and delicious scent. And she stays small. What more could you ask for?

Any thoughts on Jolie Veranda? She looks salmon pink in some pics and orange in others. hmmm
Patty W. zone 5a Illinois
10 years ago
I kind of did a big rearranging this summer too make a spot for these salmon coral colors because there are so hard to place in the garden. I'd call Jolie salmon orange leaning more towards salmon. I've got Fire Opal in between 2 Jolies. They look good together. Also have Lady Elsie May, Coral Flower Capet and apricot drift in this bed so far so good. Right now they all blended. There are a few more to add. So it will either be a nice sunset colored bed or a mess.
enchantedrosez5bma
Original Author
10 years ago
Thanks Patty. Some of the rose colors are difficult, and yeah, i definitely know what a mess looks like. My "small" roses became gargantuan and looked totally ridiculous at the edge of the borders!! I wonder how she'd pair up with white or yellow? I do have quite a few yellow roses including Sunny Sky, Winter Sun, Julia, High Voltage and Yellow Submarine plus Champagne Wishes which is white to cream so I wonder how she'd blend with some of these girls.