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Big Brandy Hybrid

10 years ago

New Big Dwarf was so successful last year That we decided to try a cross between Brandywine and NBD - named - Big Brandy Hybrid.

We purchased the seeds from Tomato Growers Supply Company - here is their description and photo;

Big Brandy Hybrid #2625 (30 seeds) This terrific heirloom-hybrid is a result of crossing Brandywine with New Big Dwarf. The hybrid is much higher yielding and earlier to mature than its heirloom parents, with all of the great flavor and fewer blemishes. Regular-leaved plants bear pink beefsteaks that weigh 12 to 16 ozs. and have all the wonderful taste of the original heirlooms. Indeterminate. 75 days.

Has anyone tried this Hybrid? It's off to a great start - I'm excited to see how it performs and check out the taste !

Comments (55)

  • 10 years ago

    Yeah, there are so many varieties that I also want to try. But for this season I am done with my list. Being short on raised bed space, I will try about 10 in pots and about 15 varieties in ground. So Big Brandy might be in my 2017 list. But first, we have to wait for Hudson's reviews. I am excited to be in NBD and Big Beef contest. Its gonna be a fun season.

    Sey

  • 10 years ago

    Had to get another type so add Big Beef -- you made me do it -- I didn't want to do it -- you made me do it

  • 10 years ago

    Haha - I know the feeling Lar!

  • 10 years ago

    You can always find room for another one, maybe 2 more. Haha

  • 10 years ago

    Big Brandy is one of the "Heritage Marriage" series produced by Pan American, a subsidary of Ball Seeds. I went crazy when I discovered them.

    Contrary to most of you, I love hybrids because they are grown in controlled greenhouses. I hate the messed up cross polinazation of OPs. I spend too much time and money gardening to be too cheap to buy seed. After all the work and money in gardening, I hate it when collected seed is so often a mess of crossing by people too lazy to bag and isolate. Plus hybrid vigor is wonderful. Problems with too many hybrids is that they were selected for disease resistance and holding, not for taste. This series should have everything: hybrid vigor plus taste.

    I was thrilled to find more hybrids of Brandywine, plus Cherokee Purple, and Jaune Flamme from a large seed company.

    The Hybrid Marriage series has at least 5 cultivars.

    One is a paste, which I don't grow because of bad taste and mealiness, and because Costoluto Genevese is a better sauce tomato.

    Another is Perfect Flame (Jaune Flamme x Peron). To find it, I posted here and called Pan American and every company who bought the seed from them. The best price is 15 seed for about $12, so I decided to just try the other 3 this year.

    On March 1, I will plant

    Big Brandy

    CherokeeCarbon (Cherokee Purple x Carbon)

    Genuwine (Costoluto Genovese x Brandywine). This is the one on which I have the most hope. Those are two of the three best-tasting tomatoes I have ever eaten. (I like acid taste.)

    I got my seed from Jung.

    I will be doing taste tests later this year and posting the results here.

  • 10 years ago

    Tarolli - thanks for your post! Others can check out Panamseed at the following link.

    http://www.panamseed.com/series_info.aspx?phid=062006567031229

    Yes, please post your results on this thread - as will I and hopefully others - and we can compare. I also have great hopes for this variety! I had never heard of the "Heritage Marriage" - I learn something every day :). I am also a big fan of Hybrids because I grow in a GH and have limited space. The new Hybrids really have improved taste - especially those crossed with Brandywine - IMO. Brandy Boy is a great example and I hope to find the same quality taste with Big Brandy !! I'll have to do some research on some the other varieties you have mentioned - like Genuwine - for example.

  • 10 years ago

    Hudson-- got my Big Brandy seeds today so I'll get them planted to day along with others.

  • 10 years ago

    You ordered them! Great - Our Big Brandy is doing as well as any of the other varieties - I think you will be glad you did!

  • 10 years ago

    This variety set fruit about 8 weeks from planting seed. This is a very aggressive grower with lots of blossoms. Approximately 5-8 blossoms per truss at this age.

  • 10 years ago
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    You are doing a great job. My babies are still babies



  • 10 years ago

    Looking good Lar - your babies look very healthy and happy!! You have a ton of them too !

  • 10 years ago

    Looking good, lar. I am not growing Big Brandy but others are about the size of your babies. Some have the first set of true leaves. Gearing up to pot them up, maybe this weekend.

    Good luck and keep updating.

    Sey

  • 10 years ago

    That's only 1/2 of them--the others are still in 3/4 inch blocks about two weeks behind these. I took your cue and started feeding with your kind of food and added a table spoon combined of fish emulsion and kelp very weak on all parts.

    Seem as like they "like it -they like it"



  • 10 years ago

    I am in it... though not a contest.

    Thanks much to LAR's generosity for the seeds.

    I sowed few right away (3/3/16), along with the NBD.They are couple of weeks behind the rest of my grow list but should catch up quickly.

    It is gonna be an exciting season, I predict.

    Sey

  • 10 years ago

    Nice - they are doing very well so far! Glad you are going to try them! I'm impressed so far!

  • 10 years ago

    Update:

  • 10 years ago

    Look at the size of those SEGAL

    great job Hudson

  • 10 years ago

    Wow ! Congrats ! That is going to be a huuge one. I love ribbed tomatoes so much better than smooth ones.

    Probably by the time Lar and I are planting out, Hudson is going to start harvesting. I like that.

    Sey

  • 10 years ago

    Hudson-- question please- -you stated that you use Iron with your tomatoes --is it to lower your ph or is it something to do with using that magical substance (which I'm also using this year)

  • 10 years ago

    Hi Lar,

    Some plants require more iron than others so I just add chelated iron to the fertilizer. I notice a big difference with cucumbers but not so much tomatoes - but it's there if they need it. Our garden soil is iron deficient so I got into the habit of adding it to the fertilizer. It is easier for me to just add it than trying to have different containers. I have not noticed any negative effect on the plants. Good luck with the magical substance - it sure works for me!!

  • 10 years ago

    OK Hudson-- I'm gonna give it a good try.

    Thanks for the info- I can always count on it from you.

  • 10 years ago
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    Big Brandy isn't holding back now! There appear to be more fused blossoms with this hybrid compared to others - does anyone know why? It must come from the Dwarf parent? Or maybe the other Heirloom parent? Maybe both - as I have grown both parents and they both have fused blossom tendencies!

  • 10 years ago

    Looks beautiful and green--it likes you

  • 10 years ago

    Big Brandy update:

  • 10 years ago

    Those are ginger to be bigger. Looks like I'm going to be staking

  • 10 years ago

    Update:

    Big Brandy continues to grow impressively!!


  • 10 years ago

    Looking nice. And the blossoms are big. That A boy.

  • 10 years ago
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    I assume it has some Brandywine, and some New Big Dwarf qualities. Which ones? It's indeterminate, right? How big does it get?

  • 10 years ago

    Hi Nanelle - This is our first year for Big Brandy - I can answer your questions better in a few months. We have grown both of it's parents though. Yes - it is indeterminate and the plant is more vigorous than Brandywine and very prolific like New Big Dwarf. We planted the seeds January 1st and the plant is 5' in height now with tons of blossoms. I think the fruit so far resembles closer to that of Brandywine - not quite as flat as NBD but some of them are shaped like NBD. I hope the taste will be more like Brandywine but NBD has a great taste too - so we are optimistic!

  • 10 years ago

    Our first Big Brandy Hybrid is almost ripe! We are excited for the taste test! I am impressed with the plant. Big Brandy reminds a lot of Brandy Boy except it has RL instead of PL. It appears to be very prolific too, although I think Brandy Boy has it beat in that category in our GH.

  • 10 years ago

    Awesome ! Ripe tomato in April.

    Few of mine have some buds (Big Beef, Better boy ...sowed Feb 21.). I planted a couple of Silvery Fir Tree (Early Feb). One of them has one fruit. That is a nice prelude.

    These are my sort of ornamental plants, with unusual carrot like leaves.

    Sey

  • 10 years ago

    Nice Sey - I have never planted a Silvery Fir Tree but I know many gardeners confuse it as a Dwarf Variety. I know you have planted SFT in prior years and it has unique carrot like leaves. Why do you like this variety? Just curious why you choose SFT (what it has to offer) over other small plants - such as Dwarfs - for example? Do you grow them mostly because they are ornamental?

  • 10 years ago
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    Beautiful! I'm growing a Dwarf Brandywine cross too; I think it's BrandyFred.

  • 10 years ago

    Daniel, yes, I am growing SFT mostly for its ornamental feature. But it is also early. The taste is on the acidic side but that is fine in salad.

    Sey

  • 10 years ago

    It won't be long now to see how Big Brandy will taste!! The plant is impressive with a lot of nice sized fruit. Here is the first one to ripen - 120 days from planting of seed!

  • 10 years ago

    Hudson,, gorgeous tomato. I'm growing Cherokee Carbon, another of the Heritage Marriage tomatoes. I'm going to follow your post, maybe I'll order seeds for next year. And by the way, what is that magic formula you are using for your tomatoes? I can't get over the size of your tomatoes! Mine are still under the lights waiting for the weather to warm up so I can plant out by the end of May.

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks Sharon - I bought some Cherokee Carbon seeds but didn't have room in the GH to plant them this year. How about sharing your results for me so I can see if I should plant them next year?

    I think my magic formula is our climate controlled GH. Really - that is the only difference from what the rest of you are doing. I have an unfair advantage and I admit it up front. I am actually cheating by using our GH but it is so fun to get good results! Besides - I couldn't grow tomatoes in my zone without it.

    Our first ripe Big Brandy has a crack but I guess I can live with that given the size of it. Think we will try tasting it tomorrow.

  • 10 years ago

    That is a beauty, Hudson. Who cares about the crack. You're gonna slice it soon.

    So here we are on the 29th day of April, with ripe tomato in zone 3, in Wyoming. That is something.

    Sey

  • 10 years ago

    Great going Hudson--i think all my big brandy were mislabled brandy boy--i had too much on my mind back then--next year will be another year--maybe i can find another mate by then

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks Sey - I'll let you know what I think of the taste. I have a Brandy Boy, Big Brandy and Brandywine Sudduth all ripe at the same time. Good opportunity to compare the taste!

    Lar - you can't loose with either one - Brandy Boy or Big Brandy! Hope things are stabilizing for you! Wish you the best!!

  • 10 years ago

    The taste is awesome!!! Let me state it this way - I would plant a Brandywine anything for great taste - then I would narrow it down to which variety did best in my garden/greenhouse growing conditions - that's the one I would plant !!

  • 10 years ago

    Nice matter--mmmm

  • 9 years ago

    Just got done Big Brandy seeds. Never tried this late but I'm going for it.

  • 9 years ago
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    Gardener's Supply new seed starting trays are again, not on my side. Spindliest seedlings ever, and several with stuck seed "helmets". Only got about 20 seeds, but I hope to have one, maybe two seedlings.

  • 9 years ago

    nanelle, good luck !

    You probably have a long growing season in zone 9 (CA ?)
    I wanted to grow Big Brandy last year but the seeds refused to germinate after 2 tries.

    I have become a fan of Brandye Boy..

    Sey

  • 9 years ago

    Hudson, how did Big Brandy finish the season? Did you grow it again this year? I love these variety threads. Great info! Thanks!

  • 9 years ago
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    MusicMinded - Big Brandy had a great taste but Brandy Boy was by far the best producer. There are so many Brandy........whatevers that I have moved on to other Brandys for this year. I would plant them again though. I have limited space in our GH which dictates a lot how many varieties we can plant. I think they will do well for you!

    Big Brandy finished the season fine and produced longer into the season than the heirloom varieties we planted. We only planted one Big Brandy as I remember but it was aggressive in growth and disease resistant.

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    9 years ago

    My Big Brandy. Haven't tasted it yet but it looks awesome...

  • 9 years ago
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    Nice Hutts! And thank you Seysonn. I am in N Cal and if they make it through the heat and mites, my plants will usually be worth keeping unil about Thanksgiving. I have only grown dwarfs the last few years; this will be my only NON dwarf this year. I'm hoping it gets some of it's form from NBD and does okay in an earthbox. Terretorial calls it semi-determinate. Last year some "dwarfs" got to six plus feet and still did okay.

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