I grow a lot of determinate because of space, but last fall I expanded my indeterminate spot in the back yard so now they are an even 6 det's and 6 indets, and thats crowding them.

For the front garden (determinate ones) we have Supremo paste, a new one. Never grown a paste before, either. I still have some orange blossom seed from last year too that I will throw in there as well since I don't have an orange/yellow.

In the back I decided to try Pruden's purple, we'll see if it lives up to the 70 DTM as advertised (I will be more surprised if it does than if does not), sweet (or super sweet, can't remember) 100, also new, never have grown a cherry before. I will also plant just one single Aunt Ruby's German green as my "shot in the dark, hope and pray for an Indian summer" tomato. I think I will have to be exceptionally lucky for that to come to fruition.

Amy Sue (a cross from Montana, originally)
Brandywine OTV
Big Beef
Dagma's Perfection
Early Girl
Gary O Sena
General Mischief (de-hybrid)
Goliath
Jay's Red Kellogg's Breakfast (don't know what Jay thinks!)
Pantano Romanesko
Pruden's Purple (you will like this one but it's only a little early)
Rainy's Maltese
Thessaloniki

Anait*
Bloody Butcher (better known as Jaliranchr)
Buisson
Kimberley
Pink Pearls
Safeway Cluster* (gotta come up with a better name if I like it!)
Woodle Witz, (the name I went with ;o)

Coyote
Ildi
Sungold
SunSugar
Super Sweet 100
Sweet Chelsea
Yellow Jelly Bean

*new-to-me

Steve

Great lists all! Skybird, Galina's is my absolute favorite cherry! It is being nudged by a different one that Steve is trying. Very different flavors for cherries, but love 'em both. Many of those look so familiar on Steve's list. :) Moonglow is a lovely little orange.

I have not started on the tomato list, believe it or not. One I know I'll be introducing locally is Burrell's Special. Appropriate that we grow an Eastern Colorado bred tomato out here. Burrell's has been bought and saved from the dustbin of seedhouse history by a Rocky Ford native with deep roots in the Valley.

There will probably be 40 +/- varieties when I get to the sowing stage. Some just for me, and quite a few for the locals to choose from. Right now it looks like five cherries for my garden. I will sow a lot of Sungold and Gardener's Delight for sale. Galina's, my darling golden globes of pleasure, were enormously popular last year, so lots of those for sale as well.

I'll have a better idea in two or three weeks. I have to narrow it down from 200 or so and work from there. :) I've been busy sowing a lot of perennials. Doesn't seem to be much room for those among all the black petunias that are so spectacular (wiping the sarcasm from my chin), so I'm filling a void.

Tsar's Royal Gift (determinate), Monomakh's Hat & Big Rainbow (Indeterminate) are the varieties I'll grow from seed, and I'll probably pick up a couple Cherokee Purples from the garden center.

For my patio I'll grow a few Hahms Gelbe, which are a very compact dwarf variety.

I'm trying to use up my oldest seeds this year, but also have a little restraint (haha) since I really only have room for 6-8 plants in the ground, but I'll grow a few extras for my sister-in-law.

So your suggestion would be that I trade out my Honeydrop cherry for Galina's cherry, eh, Jali? Ok! With that coming from our Local Tomato Expert, I think I'll take you up on that! Your "absolute favorite cherry" is enough to convince me! Can't wait to see what you decide on for this year! [How many are you growing to sell this year?]

I could hardly believe it when I got my order from Sand Hill yesterday! I snail-mailed it to them on the 5th, and received it on the 18th! I didn't know they EVER got things mailed out that quickly! I'm impressed!

Enjoying all your lists/varieties! Anybody else?

Any suggestions for a meaty tomato for sauce?

smdmt,

Boring, I know, but I like Roma and San Marzano for sauce. I freeze instead of canning and these 2 hold up well.

I'll probably have to narrow down the list but am contemplating:

A Chocolate Drop cherry

Amana Orange

Beams Yellow Pear - the flavor is just ok but I plant this one to train over the arbor entrance to the garden. It grows 8 feet every year and the yellow fruit is a nice pop of color!

Beefsteak

Be My Baby Gene Pool cherry

Black Krim

Brandywine

Cherokee Purple

Gary O'Sena

Juane Flamme

Red Siberian

Roma

San Marzano

Stupice

Barb

(Something I have learned about myself, I have so much trouble not responding to tomato threads! This is true even when I know next to nothing about a particular tomato subject ... )

I have learned next to nothing about sauce tomatoes, 'Barb, but I don't think that San Marzano can be honestly called boring. It seems to be popular and a classic.

Not being someone who cans and who makes pasta sauce with what I call my "kitchen counter tomatoes," ripening at the end of the season - I'm a little frustrated with having so little experience with paste tomatoes. I'm a frustrated tomato gardener from the get-go, if the truth was known ...

The length of the season required is some of the problem. But, I also made a mistake once thinking that I could substitute Viva Italia as a saladette. I do not recommend growing Viva Italia with that mindset and I'm not sure if I'd recommend it, at all.

Last year, I chose the earliest variety that I could find, Heinz 2653. We had a very warm June for a change. For some reason, it still took the Heinz until mid-September to ripen but then I had more than I possibly could keep up with! Taking them to the market wasn't the greatest idea because it was a good tomato year and I had a difficult time keeping them separate from the other varieties.

My fail-safe was that if people bought them thinking that they were saladettes and used them uncooked, that should have been fine! The Heinz 2653 were flavorful and sweet.

Steve

I'm going to grow more than one Big Rainbow this year! Those tomatoes were like candy. I'll probably grow something in the patio variety too and I'm looking for suggestions for a nice, easy to grow cherry tomato. I'm not the best vegetable gardener.

A good patio variety I have found is silvery fir tree. They double as ornamental with their ferny/feathery leaves, too. I grew two in a 1/2 barrel one year, I could have easily fit 3, or even crowded them with 4 and still would probably have had decent production. They are, to date, the ONLY container grown tomatoes that have succeeded for me, even other determinate ones I tried in LARGE containers were riddled with BER. SFT is a very compact variety, much more suited to container growing in my opinion.

For the last several years, I have had 3 tomato plants in pots of about 5 gallon size. Some of these will also be in the open garden. None of these small-fruited varieties can be described as a cherry, however. The best container behavior is from Kimberley. It seems fairly comfortable.

Bloody Butcher is obviously too confined but it does fine and has especially tasty fruit.

Buisson is the most productive, right through the season.

Steve

A couple of these we grew in Florida ( * ) but most are new to us as we try out new varieties here in the mountains:

*Green Zebra

Raspberry Lyanna

Paul Robeson

Costoluto Genovese

Berkley Tie Dye

Indigo Apple

Cherries will be *Isis Candy (<-- love these guys!) and Blue Berries

We grew Carbon's in Florida and I'm starting plants for a couple of co-workers so we can all share along with the Paul Robeson's I'll plant to see which one we like better. I'll also be starting Mini Bell's, a tiny potted plant variety to see if it will grow in my office window.

***Steve - I have some Thessaloniki seeds but haven't tried them yet. Have you planted these before or are they new to you? If you've planted before what's your review?

Wasatch you say? Thessaloniki ت ?

They were the first heirlooms that I grew, deliberately. (It turned out that I'd grown a few accidentally, without knowing that they were heirloom varieties.) I actually bought the fruit from a farmers' market grower. Because his display was so nice, I asked him which was an especially early beefsteak. He suggested Thessaloniki. That was about 12 years or so years ago and I may have had them every year since.

David52 said that he thought of them as something like a "commercial" variety, I believe it was how he put it. Not in some bad way but rather that they tend to ripen unblemished and in good numbers off each plant. http://tatianastomatobase.com/wiki/Thessaloniki suggestions that's how they arrived in the US.

I especially like how they can get through dry summer weather under my overhead sprinklers with very little cracking. They are not a large beefsteak and I don't think of them as having wonderful flavor. They are very good, productive, healthy -- I displayed an uncharacteristic amount of wisdom making the choice to grow them.

Steve

First off let me say that i am not a tomato person. Not because i don't like tomatoes (although i dont like bland store tomatoes anymore). But because i've had terrible luck growing tomatoes in the past. Just haven't found any good ones for my climate and soil. Although in fairness i haven't given it a lot of tries. This year i plan to change that. I have several varieties i'd like to try and i will save the best for including in my own breeding project. I will be following Joseph Lofthouse's tomato breeding progress with his adapted to Utah. I may even use his varieties in the future and probably swap any good genetics i find back with him. Breeding a tomato variety that is highly attractive to pollinators and open to natural cross pollinating would be fantastic. I am also focusing on flavor.

That Burrell's Special sounds interesting. I'm always on the hunt for locally adapted varieties. Often it makes the breeding and selection much easier.

These are the tomatoes i'd like to plant this year, but i don't know if i have room for all of them. It depend on how much room i save for other projects like the watermelon.

Solanum Cheesmaniae

Solanum Galapagense

Magnus - 1900's variety

Ponderosa - 1890 tomato

Marhio

Hillbilly

vintage wine

turkish striped monastary

pink accordion

pink berkley tie die

german bicolor

copia

amana orange

orange peach

Fantome du Laos

Thanks for the review, Steve!

Sounds like I picked a good one. Unfortunately, this year is already planned but I'll be sure to bump it up on the list for next year.

Here's my hopeful list - hopeful they germinate!

Carbon
Chocolate Stripes

Cowlick's Brandy

Cuostralee
Dana’s German Johnson Benton Strain

Daniel Burson

Dester

Fleur de Reagir.

GGWT (Girl Girl's Weird Thing)

Indigo Cherry Drops

Jens Christmas (grower’s name)

Margaret Curtain

Pink Girl hybrid

Red Barn
Roma

Santa F1
Sungold
Tami Grape
Winsall

Awesome lists, everyone! I am VERY excited to get going this year! This will be my 4th gardening season and I just keep adding more and more tomatoes in place of other crops every year. Almost all of these will be new to me with the exception of Stump of the World - which I grew last year and fell completely in love with. My La Roma III, Nova and Paisano plants died before they produced last season so I am giving them another chance.

Indeterminates (to be grown in Earthboxes):

1. 1884

2. Brandywine Cowlick's

3. Brandywine Sudduth's

4. Chianti Rose

5. Dad's Sunset

6. Dr. Wyche's Yellow

7. Grandfather Ashlock

8. Gregori's Altai

9. Moskvich

10. Pink Berkeley Tie-Dye

11. Rebel Yell

12. Red Pear Piriform

13. Rutgers Select

14. Shilling Giant

15. Sojourner South American

16. Stump of the World (such an outstanding tomato)

17. Stupice

18. Uncle Mark Bagby

Determinates (to be grown in buckets):

19. Abu Rawan

20. Bush Early Girl

21. Cream Sausage

22. Krasnodar Titans

23. La Roma III

24. Nova

25. Oregon Spring V

26. Paisano

27. Red Rocket

28. Roma

29. Yaqui

Jali - I'd love to trade seeds/tomatoes with you for 'Burrell's Special' that originated in Rocky Ford. We lived in LaJunta for 3 years and got to know Hollar Seeds (in Rocky Ford) pretty well. They developed round zukes and I have their One Ball yellow summer squash seeds from them. If you'd like to try them, I'd be glad to share.

I have lots of other tomato seeds that I'm not growing in 2016.

Would anyone be share some Burrell's Special seeds? I'd love to try hat variety. I have some Marglobe, Snow White cherries, and Brandywine I could share!

Thanks!!