That splashy one is so pretty!

The second carnosa (which I call daBomb) I got from Tawny is very happy shooting out new leaves outside! It's a very dense growing Hoya. I love it!!!

The first Carnosa is very pretty. Reminds more of a Pubicalyx.

I ordered 2 Carnosas from beastlyflower2012 and neither one is doing well. The "old" type she issued a full refund (great customer service) but the "maroon" flower one is showing the same signs. The thin wrinkly leaves that look dehydrated but aren't. I also just received the sp. Samba lessor UT033 and that one is doing great.

Da Bomb, ha oh that is perfect. I have one from the ever so wondeful tawny myself, once it gets a bit warmer here will be sending her outside for the summer.

Since I put some of my Hoyas out, there were some nights the temp. went down to high 40's. They are totally fine and happy.

I have had this happen, either from cold or underwatering. I had good luck putting them in a plastic bag for awhile and they plumped back up.

OMG Monica I purchased my plant with "papery" leaves from the same vendor, I recently started a topic asking for help. btw I also live in NC near Wilmington

@themockturtle, I'm worried about hungry raccoons, like the ones that nibbled up aurorawa's Hoyas last summer.

@Monica, what do the roots look like? That doesn't really look like cold damage to me.

Tawny - I'm glad you asked about the roots. They looked perfect which is why I was so thrilled Marco recommended Great White. Once I rec'd the great white I reported and sprinkled it all over the roots. I'm also using Orchiata bark (expensive) and have them on a heat mat. So far no improvement,. I just took some clippings today which killed me because some vines were over 2 feet long. This is on the maroon flower Carnosa.

Now the "old one" that Susan credited me for is doing better. I cut off ALL the wrinkly leaves and repotted the same way and that one now seems a little better.

Susan did say her greenhouse is not heated and she doesn't use much pesticide. Maybe a combination of cold and pests sucking the life out of the leaves is the problem. Not sure what else to do for it. I will start misting the leaves only with a very diluted foliage pro.

Mel - you are so lucky to live around Wilmington. We always go to Wrightsville Beach every summer! I love it down there.

I think the leaf damages were caused by the stress of shipping, not by Susan's cultural conditions. Large plants especially get banged up during shipping. I have received plants and cuttings from very good vendors (beloved Gardino's included) that had leaves like those, broken vines and leaves, some weird or not so weird spots or holes on the leaves (though this is not because of shipping). I think things happen when plants are shipped, more so when the weather is cold or hot. Blemishes happen when plants are grown, especially outside. I personally much prefer a grower who does not use pesticide preventatively, but deal with particular pest on case by case basis. I also prefer plants grown outside so they are tougher than the pristine ones grown in perfect greenhouse condition.

I unpotted the Carnosa and here are the roots of the two large stems. Not the greatest looking but I've seen worse.