If they're going to let you cut the entire cane, why not ask to dig it up so it can have a root system? The cuttings might not take and the area is going to be burried in a year. It looks very healthy. Good luck!

Good idea - I will have to consult with my DH (he does all of the digging), but I think we can do that. It has rained so much here recently that the soil should be nice to dig.

Jackie

Jackir -- I don't think it's Huey. For one thing, his buds are fatter than that looks to me. For another, his sepals are plain-jane triangles ... none of that decorative stuff.

Interesting find!

So, we have dug up the rose, and I cut off the bloom and a few inches, to let it open in my kitchen. I will post a picture of it when it is open. Interestingly, when we dug it up there was another small new cane a few inches away which did look like Dr. Huey foliage, and also another different one which had completely different leaves. I feel like a rose detective - will let you know how it does.

Jackie

I hope you managed to accidentally get a few of those iris and callas, too.

It makes sense for a fire house to plant a red rose. Is there a fragrance? I wonder if it's Firefighter.

Unlikely to be 'Firefighter' with those sepals. 'Firefighter' has those plain triangular sepals -- not the wonderfully decorative sepals this rose demonstrates.

Those are very fancy sepals. Thanks, Jeri. How exciting Jackie! Can't wait to see your update photographs.

I am looking forward to finding out what you have

I do enjoy your rose detective adventures.

I'm glad you dug it up, Jackie. I doubt it's Huey. The foliage and sepals are wrong. Good luck!

I saw that extra cane in the picture above Jackie but thought my eyes were playing tricks on me. Good luck with your rose and let us know how it grows!

Would love to see the bloom when it opens! Happy Rustling!

I'm sure hundreds of people walked by and never even noticed a rose or the other plants for that matter. That's something I like about being a gardener and that I think many of us here have in common - that perspective of noticing things that others might not notice. If it roots, I wonder if there'd be a place for one of the cuttings somewhere on the new block? That would be cool.

That's probably because we are always looking for the minute details, to make sure weeds aren't gaining footholds; seeds are germinating; bulbs are coming up, etc. Those who don't garden are only looking at color...if that.

Well, my Easter present was that this rose had opened by this morning, AND it is fragrant (medium strong what I would call "classic" rose fragrance)! Here are 2 pics - the first one was taken about 2 hours before the next one. The bloom is fairly small, but I don't know if that is because it is supposed to be small, or because of its history. It appears to be semi-double. When it opens to show its stamens, etc. I will post another picture. Any thoughts?

Jackie

It's pretty! There have been so many fragrant, red HTs, who knows? And they all look so incredibly different from one climate to the next. If it exhibits anything particularly characteristic of a specific variety, that can help. Otherwise, it's likely to be a shot in the dark.

While I am waiting for the bloom to open completely, here is a pic of the back of it showing the long skinny sepals:

Call it "Firehouse Red HT" and propagate it! The foliage looks lovely.

OK - more data - it definitely fades towards the blue spectrum, and it has finally opened to show its stamens:

I KNOW this is a ridiculous question, but does anyone grow Gruss an Teplitz who might have an opinion? This rose looks very much like several pictures of that one on HMF. When it is done I will count the petals. The bloom is not huge - about 3 inches across.

Jackie

I do hope you dug up the two other roses you found in place. The one you show us is lovely.

Dara - that is the mystery. Out of the ONE huge mass of woody root stuff were growing 3 different rose canes. One looks like Dr. Huey to me, one is the one in the pictures above, and the other one has completely different foliage, but no buds yet, and also no thorns. My plan is to wait until all tree of them grow and bloom, and then remove the Dr. Huey if I am correct, and try to figure out the other two.

Jackie

That rose is gorgeous! Hope your cuttings take. So were there any other roses in any of the other "weeds" on the property? So glad you took the iris as well. Keep us posted as to how everything is doing.

Jackie, I got a Teplitz from Greenmantle last year mid March 2015. I have limited pictures of it blooming 6 weeks later on a baby plant. I don't think it is your rose. I'll have better pictures soon. It isn't blooming quite yet here.

Sheila's garden. · More Info

Sheila's garden. · More Info

Thanks, Sheila - I look forward to seeing more pictures!

I am going to give my rose the mystery/found name "Firestation #51" for the moment (that fire station was #1 in our town since 1917, but then the city entered into a mutual aide agreement with all of the towns in our county, so they had to add an extra digit in the front of all of the fire station numbers, as trucks, engines, & ambulances which are the most available from any town now routinely respond to emergencies, and every town had a firestation #1, etc).

What ever it is, its color has changed remarkably in 2 1/2 days. It started out "fire engine red" (hee, hee), faded towards purple, and now is pinker but still very much towards the blue side - almost magenta or cerise. Can't wait to see what it is going to do next.

Jackie

The bloom finally finished. It had 22 petals & petaloids. As I said above, it faded towards the blue side of the spectrum. Here is the color it ended up.

Jackie, i'd be happy with that in my garden, whatever it is, Good working name also.