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Taming the Jolly Green Giant without compromising form

I am going to take Martin's advice and try to tame this beast of a seedling. I might be guilty of over watering but this has very much to do with genetics since the other GB didn't turn out like a giraffe and it was fed the same with the same light level (intense!) Also my other seedlings don't behave this way.


Martin I would like you to tell me where you would cut the plant if it were yours. I am still trying to visualize this "bend" technique and I am having trouble. Here is the picture again in all of it's tall glory.

Tracy


Comments (26)

  • 10 years ago

    Bumping the thread so Martin will see it. Ready to cut, doctor!

  • 10 years ago
    Picture update.
  • 10 years ago

    looks like it will really branch nice now


    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked Marica 7 high Sierra's Ca 4,000ft
  • 10 years ago

    I love it!

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked Cynthia Curry Russo
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks Martin for your help. I found that the nodes weren't really stacked anywhere on this plant. The area with the top branches were the tightest internodes. I don't expect to enter this into any contest, but I am quite fond of the branching pattern so I really hope that big scar on top heals nicely so that it isn't visible.


    Thanks for your support Marica and Cythia.


    Tracy

  • 10 years ago

    It won't be that noticeable once the top side branches grow, Tracy. Then as the tree grows more the scar will even become less noticeable.

    Rick

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked rcharles_gw (Canada)
  • 10 years ago

    Tracy, no need to worry. Like I stated before (and Rick, too), the branches will hide the scar. It has some nice ramnification. :-)

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked User
  • 10 years ago
    Ok it has been 12 days since I pruned the giant S1. She is ready for a fabric pot! How does she look?

    Tracy
  • 10 years ago

    Looks like it's filling in nicely.

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked Marica 7 high Sierra's Ca 4,000ft
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks so much, Marica. It isn't obvious from the photographs but the caudex has fattened tremendously in 12 days. It is bulging the pot sides!

    Tracy

  • 10 years ago

    Tracy, Martin told me he wouldn't trim my GB if her were me, but I really don't like how tall its getting. I want it to be short and fat.

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked Dain (Zone 5a, high NM Desert)
  • 10 years ago
    Dain it really is about what you want from the plant. A trim won't guarantee caudex growth but it's the experimenting with cause and effect and making discoveries that are the joy of raising the seedling. I vote for whacking it using Martin's diagram as a guideline. Post pictures of course!
    Tracy
  • 10 years ago

    Tracy, It is a nice tree, but I believe that it will just become fuller in appearance from the existing branches all growing. I have had a number which did this and they do grow and become larger in the caudex, but this is just a natural process from age.

    We all have to experiment and what works and the results can be completely different for each of us.

    Really, what do you have to lose.

    Rick

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked rcharles_gw (Canada)
  • 10 years ago
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    Tracy, nicely done. The scar will callus over and finally disappear. If you want the upper branch to become a new main stem, make sure that it grows straight up (guide it using strings or wire).

    Dain, well, it is not too late. Whack it if you like. It is actually difficult to ruin the looks of seedlings (<1 year old) simply by pruning. ;-) Bigger plants with thicker stems is another matter...

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked User
  • 10 years ago
    Officially repotted into a 1 gallon root pouch.
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks, Martin. I am ordering some bonsai wire of a couple colors today. I really like the way this seedling is pushing branches and getting stronger.

    Tracy

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Tracy, looking good but this can't possibly be a 1 gallon (almost 4 liters) pouch or? ;-) My 1 gallon Smart Pots are 2-3 times bigger!

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked User
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    The root pouches do run a bit smaller, my 2 gallon root pouches are the same size as my 1 gallon Smart Pots.

  • 10 years ago

    Martin this is a silly question. I have a rather large collection of tools including wire cutters. Do I need special bonsai cutters? I'm thinking probably not.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    My GB continues it's upward quest. I really don't want to ruin the form, though. Martin, help!

    addicted2plants Southern IL USA thanked Dain (Zone 5a, high NM Desert)
  • 10 years ago

    Are these Arabicum's or somthing else?

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    They are Thai Socotranums, specifically the 'Golden Bell' lineage.

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Dain if you snip the leaves in the area that you are going to cut it will make it much easier to look at it and decide which node will you cast as the new Apical stem. Then cut above it about a quarter inch at a 45 degree angle with the node facing you as the front of the plant.

  • 10 years ago
    Martin I checked the labels and the fabric pot brand Root Pot advertises their 1 gallon pots to only be 3.8 liters. Their 2 gallon pots are 8 liters. It doesn't make sense but I really do like this smaller size since I can go straight from a 4 inch pot without the worry of overpotting the plant.