Forgot to mention with the lid it sticks out about 4".

Liz, Is there a drywall ceiling below? Moving the flange from below is an option and with the rectangular base of your Kohler Memoirs toilet, the tile you need to remove and the subsequent void will not be an issue. The sub-floor can be fixed from below as well. Cutting, patching, gluing, blocking. All in a days work. Except the re-paint....

I'm in ca. This is on the first floor & we are on a concrete slab. There was a toilet here before & it didn't have a gap? You can kinda see here in the pic

I would bite the bullet and move it back against the wall.

Otherwise, you can build a drywall box behind it, but it always looks amateur to do that. I'd move the plumbing.

Well, crap is right. So it just got harder. Once again, we are thankful you have a Kohler Memoirs toilet with a nice big rectangular base. Anything done needs to stay within the confines of the side to side dimensions of the new toilet. Sorry. I can post tomorrow evening and help you then. I'm too tired to type a reasonable solution right now...long day at the office. Before I go to bed...how thick is the slab?

Oh..and while we have the toilet out...we need to raise the tank supply up above the baseboard. The flange (which we normally install before the angle stop is installed) will not cover the hole in the baseboard....and will stickup beyond the profile of the base.

I know that Yarbro explained that there is a standard in all 50 states...but not all toilets or plumbing rough-ins are standard. Looks like your old toilet was not standard...and your baseboard was shorter before your cosmetic remodel. Do you have a plumber?

I wonder if the plumber put it there because there was a framing problem. Certainly seems odd. I too was wondering if building out a box might be a reasonable solution at this point. If it can be done, I think Ironwood's suggestion is the best one.

Liz, I gave poor advice and deleted my comment. Orangecamera is correct

Thanks everyone. I'm going to check my receipt & hopefully be able to return. They didn't ask me about a size when I ordered the toilet. I guess I assumed there was only 1. Aiyayaya. Gotta love remodeling!

So my rough in is 10". Good news is they will take it back. Bad news is the memoirs doesn't come in a 10". I have the memoirs sink. Is it gonna look funny if I have to get a different kohler a model. The high line is an option. The room is separate by a door from where the sink is so I'm thinking it will be fine. As far as my slab thickness I have no idea. Haha. I'm sure it's a standard California cracked slab! Lol. I do have a plumber and I think he took the easy way out with cutting a hole in the baseboard rather than moving the plumbing.

Youll be fine ;)

Liz, I'm glad the store will take back the toilet. Having a different model won't make a difference, you won't see the two together anyway. As far as the baseboard and the supply line...something has to be done to get that looking better. There's no shoe molding behind the toilet, I'm not sure if that was intentional or not, but it looks "wrong" to me. Which was there first, the plumbing or the baseboard?

The plumbing. We installed new baseboard.

Oh ya the molding isn't done yet

I guess once I get the right size toilet we can get a better idea where the water line should be move to??? Does that sound right?

It will be much easier to put the shoe molding in place while the toilet isn't there. Not sure how you can fix the size of the hole where the supply line in coming through. You need some sort of cover for it, but as Ironwood Builders pointed out, the standard flange won't do the trick here.

I'll make my contractor take that piece of baseboard out and put a new one in.

http://www.terrylove.com/forums/showthread.php?39279-Question-about-water-supply-pipe-location-for-toilet

It's difficult to see but is that a shower enclosure that the baseboard butts to? Shoe molding can't wrap around a corner and if it was returned on itself it might leave an awkward hole to collect gunk. Maybe that's why it was left off?
When he replaces the baseboard, have him drill a neat hole (front to back, not reverse). If the plumber did it, I get it. Still needs replacement though.

Yes that is a shower. I'm so confused now. Ha! Who knew a stupid toilet would be so difficult. My bro in law is a plumber. He lives a couple hours a way but I'm going to make him come up and make sure this is being done right.

Liz, Good idea with the BIL. He may have a way to solve the Memoirs issue without too much trouble...I know it would take me a few hours to get it done and then some patch and repair to finish..Just dirty and messy and no fun. Regarding the toilet supply....moving the plumbing up out of the baseboard is the best finish solution. We just did it on a job (my plumber had a brain freeze in the mudroom bath and put it too low). Remove the angle stop, take out the base board, channel up the drywall and extend the pipe. A block to anchor the elbow and patch the drywall. Put the new baseboard in and repaint. Put an escutcheon on the new copper, install an new angle stop and hook up the toilet...if your BIL has got that ready.

One brainstorm idea to pass by your BIL. Toto makes a Unifit flange adapter for changing the rough in location. See if he is familiar with them and if there is enough room under the Memoirs to make it work. It may not as it is for Toto and you have a Kohler...but then the suite of fixtures matches.

I'm not sure the plumbing is the problem here. You said you ordered the toilet (didn't say that a plumber ordered it for you). It's the contractor who put in the baseboard who should have alerted you to the issue with the supply line. They probably cut the hole that large for the handle to fit through.

I *think* (I'm not a plumber) that you can shut off the water before that valve - maybe to the whole house - and then you can take the handle off behind the toilet, and use a much smaller hole in the replacement baseboard. That will be much less costly than moving the plumbing, and after a week or so you won't even notice it coming through the baseboard anymore.

If you can't use shoe molding all the way around, it will probably look better not to have it at all. Just make sure the joint with the floor is caulked well (silicone?).

So just to make sure I'm understanding. If I get a completely new toilet with the correct rough in my only issue would be the location of the supply line? Right? I hate the look of baseboard without molding. Looks so unfinished. Thanks for all your help everyone.

Right, the new toilet will fit and the supply line can move up to be out of the base board. And you can have shoe mould installed.

Liz, have you checked out the Kohler Devonshire toile? Scratch that idea, I remember having the same problem before and the Highline was the only one with a 10" rough-in.

Perfect that's what I'm going to do then!

Hi, I'm in the same situation and was curious about what you did for the solution? Do you have any pictures to share? Thanks!

We ended up special ordering a kohler toilet that had a different flange size. I think that's what it's called. They only made one toilet this sizw so it doesn't match the sink exactly but I doubt anyone but me knows that. It's still a little but further from the wall then normal but no where near as bad as before. I'll take pics later.

Looks like it's called a "rough in" not flange.

Thank you, Liz! I would love to see the updated picture since I'm also trying to figure out what I need to do.

Here's the pic

I like how the this part turned out better :)

What a drastic difference! Your bathroom looks great. Thanks for sharing your solution, and I'm glad it worked out for you!

So was the final solution a Kohler Highline with 10-inch rough in? It looks great.

Hi Andy - yes it's the highline 10".

Orangecamera. I just installed a Kohler Cimmaron 12 " rough in because I had premeasured from wall to middle of bolts and got 12". It still sticks out 2 1/2" from wall where the previous one did not. There are other Kohler toilets that I discovered after the fact that although they are 12" rough ins, (there was a measurement I can't remember what, I think it had to do with bottom of toilet not tank size) that would not have left a gap according to KOHLER. One was the Hindsight. We decided to go with Cimmaron in Master remodel even with the gap because it is a great toilet with the Aqua Piston flush technology. My husband has only plugged it once in the 2 months we have had it in the guest bath so to us it is a win win situation. We have retired the plunger to the garage! :)

Yes it is a crapy conundrum do all these problems REALY exist. Do these people with there perceived problems really know about real problems. They aren't that toilet or a sun dial from New Zealand that won't work this side of the equator.what are they learning in those ivy covered walls. Do they realise the people that make their lives possible work bent over from picking the lettuce for their Waldorf salad can't even afford to buy the lettuce they pick in the store and that corn fed stake was provided for them by a man most likely from a foreign land that goes home with blood all over him for pennies on his dollar. Jezz what a life . You even. Have to have someone pick out paint colors for you. I guess they learned how to make and spend money when what they need to make their life is a collage coarse 101 in WISDOM. Cheers be glad to send you some Kleenex to wipe you tears of frustration, should it be pink or yellow.

@Mark Knudson: wrong website, dude. Rants go elsewhere.

It looks fine. Most are away from wall. I don't see the problem.

Definately it looks much better with the right toilet spacing against the wall. Just a note to you for future projects if you run into a 10" toilet rough in situation and i know there is not too many options in nice looking toilets with 10" rough in. Consider some EAGO Toilets, they come with a 12" mounting flange but if you need a 10" or 14" rough in situation you can still use the same toilet, all you need to do is just use a different mounting flange like this one

check out the selection of EAGO toilets here Perfectbath.com or call 1-866-843-1641

If a toilet with 12" rough-in was too far out from the wall, wouldn't a toilet with 10" rough-in be worse?

''brian42697''

"If a toilet with 12" rough-in was too far out from the wall, wouldn't a toilet with 10" rough-in be worse?''

10 is still less than 12 in this universe, using positive integers and real facts. Alternative universes, and alternative facts....... still, NO.

if 12" would be too far from wall then you probably need a 14" flange but i would consider redoing your plumbing because that is very odd size, someone really messed up when building your home if that is what you need.

This is a common problem is SOCAL. 10" is an odd size and it is very common to see toilets sticking out a bit from the wall. Usually in a tight 5x10 bathroom it isn't as noticeable as seen in pics.

My own house has two different rough ins and they are orig the one in the master bath looks like a person without a measuring tape put it in. It actually helps with a tight vanity tub fit when the toilet is placed in the middle. It's 2" and if getting the right flushing toilet is more important go with the right toilet.

I am a huge TOTO fan but was given a American Standard self cleaning toilet that does stick out due to the 2" rough in difference but damn that toilet flushes.

It makes it easier to paint if that helps? LOL!

For future remodelers- band together and request plumbers learn to do wall hung toilets. Even with the actuator needed behind it you can have a long shelf that's part of design. Every plumber I consulted professed to have 'never heard of that except in public toilets'. Guess they haven't been to Europe- or high end hotels.

Hey Mark K”nut”sen, Don't forget to leave space in your manifesto about how ironic it is that you write those words on a computer You have the privilege to own and what a hypocrite you are sitting comfortably somewhere with internet access criticizing others. Also, do tell what kind of deranged deviant fantasy or fetish you have that causes you to troll through threads about toilets. I cant wait to find out all about it on the next Chis Hanson Dateline special. If that upsets you just go cry to your mom whom I'm sure you still live with and she'll make it all better.

Michelle, I'm more upset at terrafirma for suggesting wall hung toliets should be the norm. Those euro toliets are disgusting........