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Starting Again (again?)

10 years ago

Okay, so I had a super long post which I got an error on just as I went to post it and now it's lost to the nether regions of the internet. Since it took an hour to craft, I now will have to try to do a shortened version.


When I was in my teens to about 21, I had lots of orchids that were very happy. As a result, I was happy. Then I moved to a half built house with almost no windows (in college = had to stay with my parents). Most of my orchids died. I have three left from that period: a phal, an oncidium (I think) and a catt. I sank into a deep orchid depression and did not get many orchids for many years. I only bought Phals, and didn't take care of any of my orchids well. Most of those orchids died as well to the point where I haven't gotten any orchids in over three years... that is until now. I live in a great apartment with lots of windows including three skylights. The skylights are eastern facing, and receive direct sunlight on one side from about 7am to 1pm. I have three orchids in the direct sun currently: my oncidium and two new acquisitions, a catt. (Ett. Hsian Yu Gold Coast 'Sunkiss') and a seedling vanda (Ren. citrina), Is this too much light for them? I've attached a picture to give you a better idea. On the opposite side, it is what I consider brightly shaded (my light meter disagrees, but I am hoping it's just because it's a cheap piece of poo). So far, I have a Bulb. lasciochilum. I've also attached a picture. Is this enough light?

I have four western windows, which start getting direct, dappled light from about 1pm til 5ish. Some is more dappled than others, due to some large cedars planted on this side of the building. On the brightest window, I have two phals and no orchids in the others. I'd like some low-light none phal suggestions for the others.


I have two east facing windows that get sunlight in varying degrees from 7am to 2pm. One is in the bathroom, in which my old Cattleya (cross unknown) now resides in a wood-slat basket. It's been in this basket for the better part of a decade and is now starting to 'crawl' out of it. I don't know what to do as far as re-potting goes as its roots are well attached to the wood. I have been adding fresh soil at times over the years... but now it seems it's time to do something container-wise. Any ideas?

The other eastern window is in my bedroom which also has a south/eastern skylight. I currently only have a large, healthy Phal in there that I just moved from the southern most western window that hardly gets any light. It's had two flower spikes since I moved 6 months ago that haven't grown. I'm hoping the light is better and kick starts them. I'd like to have an orchid on the wall opposite the window and about six feet from the skylight. This would be moderate to pure shade with little direct light. I was thinking of trying an Aerangis. Would any be able to thrive and bloom in this situation? Would anything else? I am looking for something temp-tolerant. It can get cold in the bedroom at night in the winter (think ~55-60F).


Finally, my new orchids, the Bulb, the Vanda and the Catt I got on the internet and have had about a week. I followed the initial instructions to water them the morning after I received them, despite still being wet. They are packed densely in sphag and have been quite wet the entire time. I don't think the roots look particularly good even since receiving them and I fear root rot. The initial care instructions said not to repot for a month, but I fear that may cause more harm than good. I have a piece of cork coming tomorrow for the Bulb. and have pots suitable for the other two along with more appropriate medium. Is it better/okay to disregard the instructions and get them out of that damp mess?


I am also interested in other low light (or high light that can go in the sunny-side of my sky lights) suggestions. I probably should stick to tolerant beginner and intermediate plants. I will be adding a humidifier next year, but my apartment gets low humidity during the winter. I also heat primarily with wood, so temps can vary 20+F in a single day (usually between a low of 60F and a high of 84F if the wood stove gets cranking). I have a back-up gas heater, so the temps should never drop below 56F on the really cold nights. I prefer not below 60F. Any non-phal. suggestions? The odder the better, as long as their blooms don't smell like carrion.


Thanks, and looks like it isn't any shorter. Below are pictures of my skylights. They open, so should be able to stay cool enough in the summer. I will also likely mount some small fans to keep the circulation. I can add thinks to diffuse the light if you all think it might be too strong.


Thanks again!



Comments (8)

  • 10 years ago

    Becky, great detail there but to get detailed advice, you need to add similar gibberish to this to your profile "arthurm2015(Micro-Climate, Zone 10b Sydney, Australia)"

    In some climates, sunlight through clear glass might be fine. Here it would result in sunburnt orchids.

  • 10 years ago

    I knew I forgot something in write-up round two and that was my location. I am in central NH, USA... Zone 5a according to the USDA map. I'll add it to my profile as well.

  • 10 years ago

    Your post covers a lot of ground but I will try my best to give my opinion .

    First I would be affaid that the temps in the skylight might get much higher than you realize. High light and heat can burn plants quickly. Many plants will be OK with this like the Cattleya, but they will need some time to adjust. Put a thermometer on the shelf during full sun and you might be surprised how hot it gets.

    The wood stove will make the air very dry. The day night temp changes shouldn't be a big deal and for some plants is a good thing. The dry air will be the issue which you can compensate for with potting medium and watering schedule.

    I do not like sphagnum alone as a potting medium, especially for the renanthera I would use bark or bark mixed with sphagnum.

    As for low light plants, I like Phaius, easy going large plant.

    We all become experts at growing in our own environment. You will loose some plants while you figure out what works and what doesn't.

  • 10 years ago

    One method I used when growing near windows was touching the leaf at particular times of day to see the actual light temp conditions on the plant. A very warm to hot leaf with high light can burn the plant. As James mentions heat build up can be fast in summers near enclosed windowed spaces.

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you all for your responses!

    I will monitor the plants in the skylights very closely as we approach late spring and summer with my indoor thermometer. Hopefully, in the next month or so I can just leave the skylights wide open all the time so they get plenty of fresh air and air circulation and it will help to keep the day temps down since they open up about a foot. I think I am also going to get some fake plant(s)/tree branches that I can use to diffuse the lighting a bit for them as well while keeping the natural look. Sorry if I seem stubborn on leaving them there- they just look so great! The skylights are also my only natural light source on that side of the building and I need to be surrounded by plants.


    I am interested in moving some of my plants outside for the summer. I have plenty of space. I live in an apartment above a garage, so the only other person on the property is my landlord and he loves plants as much as I. My real concern is with wildlife. I live in a very rural area, which means everything from squirrels to black bears, plus the flock of chickens my landlord has. I've seen some posts of squirrels running off with orchids and I am concerned. I am currently at war with two grey squirrels and two red squirrels over my bird feeder (they are winning). How much should I be concerned about this? If I keep the squirrels well fed, do you think they will leave my orchids alone? I think my oncidium would really enjoy being outside and I would like to spur some growth from it. It's endured a lot at my hands and I am amazed it's still alive. I want to try to make amends with it. What would be the "ideal" outside location? Morning sun and bright shade the rest of the day? Would it be okay on the ground or a plant stand or should I try to hang it from a tree?


    I agree about the sphag potting. I was actually very disappointed when I opened the shipping box from Norman's. The shipping receipt said not to repot the plants for 30 days as this could "severely damage" them but the plants already looked like they were on the downward slide to me. I repotted them all. The Cattleya and the Ren. are now in a potting mix with bark, a dash of fresh sphagnum and a dash of Black Gold orchid mix. I mounted the Bulbophyllum on cork bard with sphag. I know in the winter I will need to do something about moisture. I am probably going to do a terrarium and artificial lighting for it. The little seedling's main roots probably won't live- it looks like they were rotted at the base of the plant. I left them because they were still firm and plump and I hope I am wrong about the rot. The Cattleya had lost probably over 60% of its roots but still had some healthy ones and the Bulbuphyllum was held in the mix by buried, dead and rotting pseudobulbs. The rest of it looked shriveled. I think I may have lost the seedling if left in that sphag much longer. Needless to say, I don't think I will order from Norman's again between this and what I've read about them. It makes me sad because I got plants from them 8 years ago and they looked phenomenal (they have since passed).


    Thanks for the Phaius suggestion, James! I really like the look of it and have put it near the top of my wishlist. My pony-tail palm may be getting evicted from its spot in the not-to-distant future. It looks like its terrestrial. What kind of growing medium do you like to use for it?

    Thanks again for all your suggestion. I really appreciate any help and advice I can get.



  • 10 years ago

    I picked up a cheap infrared thermometer at a big box hardware store, around $20. I find it helpful to check temps around my grow area. It's surprising how different temps can be around a room.

    The window will help a lot, some windows will have a coating to reflect heat so you might not have a problem at all.

    As for squirrels, when I lived in an urban area I had more problems than in the suburbs. I think if they have other options they skip the orchids. I wouldn't feed them, more food will just mean more squirrels. They do seem to really enjoy Dendrobium flower buds. They also like to chew on p-bulbs, I think for the water. Another thing they do is dig up the pots to hide food. If you hang the plants they won't go out of their way to get to them.

    Phaius does like a terestrial mix, I use a mixture of peat moss, orchid bark and perlite.

  • 10 years ago

    Here's a pic of Phaius tankervilleae, or Nun's orchidor Nun's Cap (various names).

    It is planted in a mix of small bark and sphag. But this plant does well with about 50% shade cloth on my patio. Very pretty plant even when not blooming.

    Phaius has large green leaves which remind me of Hostas. Nice orchid which takes little care.

    Jane

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