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Please Help me save my DR

10 years ago

So here's the novel...

I got my first DR in the spring of 2014. It was just a plant with leaves. It grew great and bloomed quickly. I fell in love with the plant and wanted another but they are not available year round. My husband, after looking at my new strange plant was pretty sure there was a DR at his office that no one claimed but it was given small amounts of water every couple days. He brought it home late summer, and it was a DR with about 3 small healthy leaves. I treated both DR's exactly the same as one was small and blooming and the other was huge and hardly growing. They got water on the same days and fertilized in the spring of 2015.

Then, in 2015 I was rewarded. This was my original DR

And this was my husbands office DR

Later that summer the office rose bloomed

But you can see the ends of the leaves were still crispy for some reason.

Well, this year I have a problem. I brought my DR's in over the winter and gave a sunny window and sparing water cuz even winter in Arizona is dry. The original DR lost a lot of leaves, but still grew a few, while the office DR grew like crazy. As it started to warm up this year, I would slowly acclimate the plants to the outdoors and finally put them out for good. Original DR has done great.

Office DR leaves turned reddish yellow and all old leaves have fallen off. It had little new growth the first two weeks of being outside and has since stopped growing completely and lost all but a few leaves.

Also, the base looks whithered

I was worried I over watered this winter, but maybe I under watered this spring? Not sure what the withering means.

I'm at a loss. I thought I was doing great and now I'm afraid the plant is done.

What I've done:

Pulled all dead/dying leaves

Fertilize within first week of being outdoors and then once a month

pulled plant to check roots and repotted in cactus/ perlite/ vermiculite blend

pulled my hair out as nothing has helped :/

Any help would be appreciated! Please and Thank You!!!

Comments (10)

  • 10 years ago

    When you say withered is it soft or mushy, What Fertilizer are you using and at what strength? Office plant has a nice caudex. Other will be along soon, hang in

  • 10 years ago

    It is not soft or mushy. Checked it thoroughly for any rot when I repotted and all roots and stems look good. I use less than a teaspoon of Osmocote granules 14-14-14 on top soil. I've only done it twice this year before repotting and haven't done it since the repotting. Repotted about 2 weeks ago.

  • 10 years ago

    I wonder if the Osmocote has to much nitrogen or something. The leaves remind me of chemical burn. You have done what I would do to check the plants for rot. I use clear water between my ferts. But I use Dyna gro pro 936 and Dyna-Gro Pro-tekt Tek-032 0-0-3 Silicon Supplement. Several people on here recommended it. It takes so little to use.

    How are the roots on the office plant? have you trimmed any? The soil you are using needs to drain well. But you get really hot later on so you may need to water more often I know I have. I have my plants in fairly short pots. Hopefully Rick will check in he has trees like your office tree. If not pm him he is great help

  • 10 years ago

    Carrie,

    Your Ofiice DR looks like it could be an Arabicum by the charateristic growth of it's caudex. The wide and more horizontal growth of base with main terminal branches coming from one plain. The leaves on Arabicums are usually larger than that of your other tree being more than likely Obesum. Arabicum leaves can feel a bit fuzzy.

    The skin on the Office DR (Arabicum) with it's rough or weather look is normal as long as firm and good color.

    The leaf loss could just be a change from inside to out, repotting or dormancy.

    As long as there is no sign of soft and dark marks on stem or caudex, it should be fine. Also, terminal growth tips should be green and healthy.

    Water sparingly until you see new growth commencing. Do not require much water at all if in dormancy.

    I like pruning my obesum's to keep them more compact, but it is not mandatory. Personal preference. They produce main lateral branches after a prune and each of these branches produce blooms.

    Do not prune your Arabicum. It will destroy it's overall character.

    thanks for the vote of confidence Marica, but I am still and always learning. Great info you have given and appreciated by Carrie, I am sure.

    Rick

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you Marica, I only use plain water since my fertilizer is a granule it sits on top soil. I will look for the fertilizer(s) you mentioned.

    The roots on office look good and I have not cut any, although there's no knowing for sure a few didn't break when repotting it.

    I tend to mix a lot of perlite and vermiculite with my cactus mix. Prob 30% perl, 30% vermic, 40% soil (just a guess) I mix it separate and judge by look and drainage before using. I tend to make a larger batch and use it to repot more than one plant at a time.

    I also had it in a much larger pot over the winter, but when it started looking bad and loosing leaves I decided when I do repot it I would put it in a pot more proportionate to it's size. I was worried the larger pot was holding on to too much water.

    Thank you again!

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks Rcharles,

    The office plant is definitely Arabicum with fuzzy leaves, while the original came with a label that said Obesum. They are definitely different.

    The office plant stems and caudex are firm, but it almost looks like the stems have running water marks. Couldn't get good pics the other day... These are better.

    Also, the stem tips are more reddish...

    Even the few that have green leaves...

    But I feel like they have always been a bit red.

    Once again, thank you!!!

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    It looks like it's going to bloom. My bet is that the plant will put out new growth as summer approaches.

  • 10 years ago

    Carrie, It does look as Dain mentions, that possible blooms coming from the reddish tips showing on the branch that has the yellowing leaves on it?

    Check it over well to make sure that the white tiny flecks on green leaves are not the result of spider mites. Check undersides of leaves.

    Marking on the stems (water marks) as you mention, could be from something in the water, fertilizer, etc. residue. A similar look can come from sap running down the stem from leaf scars. Looks to too much for this though.

    Rick


  • 10 years ago

    Thanks everybody, I guess I just have to wait and see what happens. I just don't understand why it hasn't grown at all in over a month of great Arizona weather.

  • 10 years ago

    Arabicum can be slow grower. without leaves it can put it;s energy in the caudex, but our days are longer and it loves sun and heat. Give it time. If you have any other questions just ask.