Do you install the bottom screened vent during the summer months?

I prefer the last one, #906, too. With either door I would not be able to open the front door to enjoy the storm door view until after 12:00 noon.

With either door, even with the screen down, the full east sun streaming in the living room would turn it into an oven.

It may be wonderful in Winter!

We have the full glass door as our front door and two dogs. I finally used silicone to attach a piece of light shield to the bottom because the one dog attacks the door and there are teeth marks in the glass. so now she can not see out but we still get the light.

We have a crappy silver storm door like 802 above. If it were the nice white as you show I would LOVE it. For some reason the screen on the bottom half does not tempt the dog like the glass does. Crazy. And they do make outer heavier shields to put over the screened part. We have not done so. It is nice to have the ventilation when weather permits. WE have already opened it for the summer time and the glass will not go back down until it gets cold again.

I do not have photo shop. Sorry. Some one here might though.

If I had it to do over again I would go with half door like the other three doors are and full glass on the storm door. I am not how well sealed they really are around the edges as far as stopping drafts. Any opening window would be great. But then it is nice to have all the added light of the full glass door.

We have the second door and it works very well for us. Of course we only have cats....but they climb! LOL

We have a full length storm door. I hate it. The very heavy full glass has to be unscrewed and removed in order to expose the screen for a breeze AND to wash the outside of glass. The screen IS NOT removable just to clean the window. So, I'm going to replace it with a 1/2 roll up screen storm door. When the screen is rolled up and hidden, you have the 2 glass windows, making it full view.

I love, love, LOVE my screen/storm door. I have a beautiful front door and so many people seemed shocked that I wanted to "cover it up" with a storm door. I don't care what anyone else thinks - I LOVE being able to open up my front door and get a breeze. I also love being able to open up my front door to strangers, and yet still have a locked door between me and them.

Totally agree about the full length glass doors. They are heavy, and they are a bear to change out. Yes, if you get the full length glass, your front door will practically get scorched! (I briefly had a full length glass storm door. It looks pretty, but it was a pain.)

809 or 802 would be my choices. 809 if you don't think your dogs will beat up the bottom too much. 802 gives you a solid bottom if you're worried the dogs will be too hard on it.

I want to thank everyone for the useful information you've shared. It's given me several things to think about.

I am going to try to make this my last set of questions and "what ifs" about the storm door. Since I have to order it by Friday, I will be able to draw a line under it and live with my choice!

The "full length door," #906, does not have removable glass. It does not have an interchangeable full-length screen. That section does not have any screening.

This circumvents the weight, clumsiness, and hard-to-clean issues. I would stand on the deck to clean the outside of the door. I would never be wrestling a double paned section of glass that is bigger than I am. The hardware/closer for this door is an upgraded, heavy-duty style.

Now as to the heat build up problem. While the main glass is stationary, the door does have ventilation. The very bottom section, shown below, is a 4-inch x 30-inch double-paned panel that can be replaced in the summer with the 4"x30" screened panel. There are locking tabs that are used to seal, remove, or replace these short panels as needed.

Also, on the inside top of the storm door there is a 1.5" x 30" ventilation grill that can be opened or closed as needed. The theory is the cooler air will vent into the 4x30 gap at the bottom of the door and the hotter air will vent out at the top.

Do you think this would be enough of an air-exchange to keep the heat between the two doors at an acceptable level?

No matter which storm door I choose, I will not be able to open the main door until after 12:00 noon. The door(s) face due east. The sunlight blasts the front of my house from sunrise until noon. From then on, it's shady.

For the real cross ventilation, there are two large casement windows on either side of the picture window. They are easy to open and close. Between them and the 4x30 screen panel I would be able to hear the birds and smell the flowers very easily.

PatriceNY - I agree with the idea of "...love being able to open the front door to strangers, and still have a locked door between us..." I know people that will just walk right in when the single front door is opened. I want a locked storm door, too.

Want to retire - did - that is terrible that you couldn't take the screen off for cleaning. I would not like that either.

Shades - I'm sorry, but I had to roar with laughter over the thought of your dog "biting" the door. My two boys are wild, but they've never bitten a door or glass pane.

They lunge, jump, and "dig" at the large window when they are incensed at the sight of a stray cat, SQUIRREL, school bus, SQUIRREL, meandering kids, SQUIRREL, blowing bit of plastic, or SQUIRRELs! The boys are as tall as I am, so their feet can reach far higher than even the lower panel on #801.

I can circumvent their attacks 95% of the time with a stern "Leave it !" if I'm in the room. Still there are times I'm elsewhere and don't hear the brief warning snarls.

The photo below shows the 1.5x30 ventilation bar at the top of the inside frame. This bar can be "open" for air flow or "closed" for winter.

Caroline. I am a bad dog owner. I do not stop the dogs from acting like maniacs until I am ready to invite the person at the door in. Then they stop right away. I really want strangers to think we have very nasty uncontrolled dogs. I just have to yell STOP and it is over.

I just remembered my neighbor also has a full glass door and it is heavy as mentioned above. Some times it created a suction when trying to open it. Not sure if it was just her door or if this is common. they are beautiful but I think the exposure your front door has it will fry your front door. Since we have the front porch it helps until the very late afternoon for us and then the heat is brutal on that porch as it faces south west. Our eastern facing half light door does not let in too much heat. Like your door in the early afternoon it is beginning to be shaded.