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Mexican Modern? This funky fixer upper needs help.

10 years ago

Last week I posted about the hideous curb appeal of an otherwise ok home we were considering buying. We decided to ditch that house and instead are throwing ourselves into a seriously funky fixer upper.

We have some money for remodel/renovations, but not a ton. Big questions right now are: do we keep the terra-cotta tile? Paint the walls white with dark blue accents? What the hell is up with the floor in the master? And how much is it going to cost to renovate the attic so we can have a 3rd bedroom...


Comments (46)

  • 10 years ago

    was your offer accepted on this house? i dont want to be led down the garden path again... i'm still in mourning over that other house.

    echoparkhome thanked Judy Mishkin
  • 10 years ago
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    Good point.

    terracotta tile is coming back in in 2017. You would regret removing it. Dark green is also back, don't repaint or remove those tiles.

    echoparkhome thanked User
  • 10 years ago

    Aw... nnigrt We are currently in inspections on this house! Anything can happen, of course, but we are super committed. I mean, check out this little orange tree.

  • 10 years ago

    Tribbletrouble44152k7 Trek

    really? how do you know that? I kind of love the terra-cotta tile...


  • 10 years ago
    These are questions for a general contractor and architect.
    If you are serious about this offer, get your architect over there pronto. Once inspections are in, you will have to decide whether to go through with the purchase, unless it is an "as is"sale.
  • 10 years ago

    SandyC.

    Oh, we're serious about this house. It's been a long road to find something we love in an outrageous market. It's not a great time to be a buyer here in Los Angeles. We'll have a contractor, architect and the rest. But what could be more inspiring than comments from strangers? I mean, who knew terracotta is coming back in 2017? Tribbletrouble44152k7 Trek that's who.

  • 10 years ago
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    I like this house better! For sure keep but refresh the Saltillo tile as they are classic and timeless. I agree to change the master bedroom flooring to one material. Or, maybe even just leave the patch of Saltillo and good quality carpeting underfoot for the bedroom. Just guessing, but I think $150 to $200 per square foot to convert an attic to a bedroom may be about right. It will depend if you want a bathroom up there as well. Oh...how about Navajo white walls (a nice warm white) may work nicely with the flooring and navy accent walls. I hope your inspector doesn't find too many issues with the house to scare you away. :)

  • 10 years ago

    A fun character house that clearly had a lot of prep done for sale, but not neutralized into trendy gray-and-marble. The master bedroom may have been converted from a sleeping porch to a real room.

    Given the Redfin-quoted small size of the house, it'd be a good idea to get copies of all permits on the house from city hall to see if any additions or conversions have been permitted, inspected and approved.

    A good professional tile cleaner can strip and reseal the saltillo floors. It will be a good investment to keep the saltillo. Here's a before and after: http://www.tilesealing.com/services/saltillo-tiles/


  • 10 years ago

    It would cost a fortune to jackhammer all that tile to replace the flooring. As others have commented, it has character and is classic. Our whole house is tiled with Saltillo and it wears very well, even with the dog running circles over the floor.

    If it were mine, I would paint all the walls a creamy off-white, and limit color to the accessories. Congratulations and good luck.

    echoparkhome thanked flopsycat1
  • 10 years ago
    So is this house in 90026? 90039? I just love those hills. Best to you!
    echoparkhome thanked Liz H
  • 10 years ago

    This is a better house but I would keep looking.

  • 10 years ago

    Not sure your personal style but you may want to check out William Shatner's home reno on DIY. It's a Mediterannean that gets a lovely update. I personally think the lighting in his home makes a huge difference and would also really draw the eye up to your high ceilings.


    echoparkhome thanked bygeorgi
  • 10 years ago
    What an interesting house you've found! Love the tile!!! But the master??? It kind of looks like it was a porch that was enclosed with maybe a wall that was removed. Have your inspector go through that room roof to foundation with a fine tooth comb.
  • 10 years ago

    I love the tile and wanted to put it in my kitchen, but it was too thick. Good luck!

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    The kitchen would be my first thing to tackle and really those tiles completely drive the whole decor so what do you want in that house , mexican/ spanish or modern I would get a pro involved from the start this will be a big job and needs some planning

    echoparkhome thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • PRO
    10 years ago

    It's likely, as was said above that the flooring in the master is the result of an addition/conversion. In order to change to a single flooring style - there may be a major project in your future -(there are possibly two different foundation types which means elevation changes and allowance for expansion will be necessary) if you are thinking of using a hard surface flooring. Having recently helped a client with a 1920's beach home where the laundry room was enlarged so the room is partially over the garage, and partially over a patio slab - it was a challenge that involved all kinds of crazy equipment, but eventually worked out. (The client didn't want to use resilient flooring )

    echoparkhome thanked Michelle Scott for Ethan Allen - Laguna Niguel, CA
  • 10 years ago

    @echoparkhome, thanks for remembering your friends from the earlier thread and posting the link to this one.

    I'm one of those who fall into the "saltillo tile is the southwestern classic" camp and would try to love them first.

    The bedroom ceiling has potential. Consider either plastering over the boards or making them a nice, light, natural color if possible, then paint the beams a darker, earthier color, such as brown. Here's a featured house for the LA Times that has saltillo floors among many other features. Check out the ceilings in slides 24-28.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hotprop-pasadena-spanish-revival-20160222-story.html

    The photos also show white boards with white beams, similar to what's currently in your house, but I find white plaster and brown beams more elegant.

    Maybe reclaimed wide plank boards for the master floor? My first thought was a brick accent wall to give a little taste of Brooklyn, but I just don't see it working. Perhaps you can pull it off better than I.

    I love the irregular tile in the (guest?) bath, but would lose the wood paneling and ceiling.


    echoparkhome thanked HU-2339588
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    Oh darn, I had some great ideas for the other home, but this house is also up for grabs, yeah! Hilarious threads, btw!

    Random thoughts...you could probably flip this house if you ask me. I'm not a flipper, but make a few basic changes and sell. Wait 6 months to a year and take the extra money for an upgrade.

    This house looks like it would cost mega-bucks to alter structurally. You are in CA with a major drought. Anything you do will upset the apple cart of the hillside.

    Do you really want that headache?

    Keep the tile floors. You are in LA, they work. I'd tone them down somehow with a white-wash though.

    Repaint the entire house white for a sense of unity. Ditch the sunshine ceiling light and the red door. Replace the counters. Replace the appliances and all the light fixtures and mirror in the bathroom. Do the same white-wash on the other tile floors as well. Have the kitchen and bath cabinets professionally sprayed a high-gloss white. Change out the whole house hardware and lights.

    Add a nice feature to a suitable spot in the home such as a built-in but simple water-wall behind a bar or something. That's your wow factor.

    Clean up the mish-mash of growth in the front, and on the house, replace the gate and get a landscape person to help you add modern, simple, drought-tolerant plants and such. A terraced hillside with a spot to have a glass of wine would be nice, besides the deck.

    Power-wash everything!! Including the deck. Clear up whatever clutter and pots are around. Repaint the house white again and add a nice trim color.

    Trim whatever trees you can to capitalize on the view. Add new outdoor lighting, house numbers, mailbox, and all that jazz.

    I'll keep thinking...

    Happy moving!

  • 10 years ago

    Echopark, have you bought this house?

  • 10 years ago

    Leave the tile, it's amazing! Design wise I think it leaves you open to a lot of possibilities as well. I certainly wouldn't find it limiting, it can most likely mesh with whatever your style is.


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    echoparkhome thanked Sarah
  • 10 years ago
    We don't know if the OP has purchased this home. Echo park are you still there?
  • 10 years ago

    One of the recent posts said they were in the inspection stage. If you look at the link with the listing it says that back-up offers are being accepted. I take it they put on offer in.

  • PRO
    10 years ago

    Love the Tile. I say Keep IT!

    echoparkhome thanked Precision Granite & Marble
  • 10 years ago

    @Tribble--busting my gut laughing at your humour! Tooo funny. I esp. got a kick out of the stuffed horse and the Russian dude. Lol.

  • 10 years ago
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    Echopark, I'm excited about this dilemma.

    But luvourhome suggested, and I think I agree, that you may have some sort of moral obligation to buy the other house (too? instead?), given that the dilemma about it has a taken on a bizarre life of its own and will never die. Just sayin'.

  • 10 years ago

    The zombie thread house!

  • 10 years ago

    Haha keep posting @Tribbletrouble and @luvourhome LOVE YOUR WORK funniest threads ever

  • 10 years ago

    Yep. I've changed my mind. Keep the tile as is. Echo? You'll be all ready for tomorrow...

  • 10 years ago

    I do so hope this sale goes through...GREAT house with lots of fun to come. Looking at the real estate photos, it looks as if the master bedroom was originally a two car garage and the owners converted, first one side, with an entry way across the back and then opened it back up to create a large bedroom, thus three different floors. I doubt there are any structural issues there (but, of course, it must be checked). You might just lay an inexpensive floating floor over the whole thing, with a plan to redo it properly, say five or ten years out.

    I wouldn't change the saltillo tile until you've done some experimenting with paint colors. Those tiles take on a whole different look with some softer colors (looks as if the former owners went to a great deal of trouble to find "complementary" colors to the tile, and on some level, they do sort of work, but I think those shades are just way too strong for so much wall. The colors also bring the walls in and make the rooms look smaller.)

    I'm looking forward to more!

    Oh, yes...Tribble, you are such a troublemaker...I love that in a person.

  • 10 years ago

    saritam85 I love these photos. Unless we end up having to knock down walls and move rooms around, we are planning on keeping the tile!



  • 10 years ago
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    "I'd like, 'Will it pass inspections?' for $1000.00, please, Alex."

    Oh look, it's a Daily Double! (Insert applause as contestants pensively await news of echoparkhome's wager...)

  • 10 years ago

    "And now, it's time for Final Jeopardy!

    echoparkhome is in the lead with $44 000.00..."

    https://youtu.be/73tGe3JE5IU

  • 10 years ago

    hahah. I clicked on that link at work and everyone was visibly on edge. Yikes.

    I could really use that $44,000 now that the inspections came back... but go big or go home. Or in this case, go to the rental we've been living in while we try to find a home.

    I wish all those folks from the other thread would come to this one and put their time to good use. Buttttttttttt, what is dead will never die.

  • 10 years ago

    Uh oh. I'm sorry. :-( I hope you find a lovely new place.

  • 10 years ago

    Echo, what were the inspection results, summary? Did it put you off?

  • 10 years ago

    I'm curious about the thing in the left hand doorway in the dining room... is that a balcony railing? doggy gate? what?

  • 10 years ago

    I don't want to be one of THOSE people who don't realize a thread is dead! So please clarify echo; You're NOT buying this house?

  • 10 years ago

    Mexican zombie thread!?


  • 9 years ago
    Hey everyone,

    Thought I'd give a little update. We bought the house. We gutted the house. And we are now nearly finished with our first (major) round of making this into the house of our dreams.

    We ripped out the Saltillo. There were permanently wet spots that we originally thought were from a burst pipe, but turned out to be something else... they had to go. For now we have concrete floors- the pro gal slab. You can still see and echo of the tile glue. We're undecided about whether or not to keep it or put in hardwood.

    If you want I'll share pics, but most likely everyone has moved on from this post long ago. That other post however...
  • 9 years ago

    Yes, pictures please!

  • 9 years ago

    Moved on? no way. Please post pictures. We are a curious bunch.

  • 9 years ago

    I'll have to refresh my memory, but yes we would love to see pics. Before's and After's would be best!!!

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    we NEED to see photos!!

  • 9 years ago
    The second I saw this post pop up
    I remembered your original dilemma. I want to see pics too!
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