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When to give up on seeds?

10 years ago

This is my first year and I planted a ton of seeds knowing they probably wouldn't all grow up into veggie/fruit producing plants. I've got a bunch that have sprouted but I have a ton of ones that haven't and I'm wondering when do I know they are dead and to scrap em and move on? Either I over-watered them or made them too hot or something but I have a bunch of seed trays with no signs of life. Looking at the packages the seeds came in I can see that some are late and others are very late. Does this mean that they are dead or dormant and I should leave them and I might still get some growth?


Cucumber Straight Eight

Planted: April 9; Days to Germinate: 7-14; Estimated Sprouting Date: April 16 - April 23

Peppers (Hot Mix)

Planted: April 5; Days to Germinate: 7-14; Estimated Sprouting Date: April 12 - April 19

Cantaloupe

Planted: April 9; Days to Germinate: 7-14; Estimated Sprouting Date: April 16 - April 23

Pepper (Early California Wonder)

Planted: April 9; Days to Germinate: (6-12 days or 10-21 days); Estimated Sprouting Date: April 15 - April 30? (got off internet not seed packet for California Wonder but couldn't find Early California Wonder version)

Lettuce (Iceberg)

Planted: April 5; Days to Germinate: 7-14; Estimated Sprouting Date: April 10 - April 15 (got off internet not seed packet)

Lettuce (Grand Rapids)

Planted: April 9; Days to Germinate: 2 to 14; Estimated Sprouting Date: April 11 to April 23 (got off internet not seed packet)

Also I have planted Watermelon, Cucumbers (Improved Long Green), and Cayenne Peppers in seeding trays. Some have grown and I've transplanted them to go under lights but the rest of the trays haven't grown. I expect them to grow at varying rates but when do I decide that they will not sprout and can I reclaim the soil for other plants? Would I want to try to fish out the seeds or just leave them since they won't grow anyway?


I also planted a couple of Tomato Rockets and one is doing well but the other isn't doing anything. In fact the one is getting its first true leaves and I'm going to transplant them to their own little containers today or tomorrow. I was supposed to water them twice a day until they sprouted and then once a day but I think I missed one with all the pots and trays I've got in my bedroom. Should I try watering again twice a day and see if the other one will grow? I thought I saw a tiny spring of green but that is gone now. Is there a way to know if the seeds are dead? Do they die or do they just remain dormant?


Thanks for any and all replies!!!


Comments (9)

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Linda, what kind of light are you using? How far are the seeds from the light? Are you trying to start all the seeds indoors or are some planted outside?

    Watering twice per day might be overkill. You should only water if the soil feels dry. I did have an issue with my grow light being too warm and drying out the soil. Better to under-water than to over-water. Over-watering can cause the seeds to rot.

    Also, where are you located?

  • 10 years ago

    Zone 5B in Southern Ontario. I only water the Tomato Rockets twice a day. The rest I look for signs the soil is dry like a lighter colour, cracking in the soil and it feeling dry to the touch. The Tomato Rockets are kinda like a tape I guess. I have the plants that are sprouting a few inches from the lights, just regular house lights and SAD lamps I have on hand. I took one large oval bucket I got from the Dollarama and lined the inside with tin foil and have a wide lamp sitting on top of that. Most of those plants are doing well its just that some of my seeds (right beside ones that grew and are doing well) have not sprouted and they would have been watered at the same time as the ones around them. I'm starting the seeds inside and I created a shelter outside with plastic tarp over it to let them get some sun outside. I've been doing this for a week or more and the seedlings are doing well. It's just some trays that nothing is growing in. If nothing is growing I assume maybe they aren't ready yet but the ones side by side with healthy growing seedlings should have sprouted by now. I have kept records to track when I planted, when they sprouted, when to expect maturity, etc. So now I have some trays with some empty slots where I transplanted the seedlings to larger individual containers. This way I can put all the seedlings in the limited light I have and the ones that haven't germinated yet can stay warm but don't need the light.

  • 10 years ago

    I had a heating cube generating some warmth but the house usually is a bit cooler so I thought that might affect the full trays and delay their germination dates. Doing some reading on the different types of seeds I planted I see that I could do something differently for the spinach (I read you can germinate them in the fridge??) I'm treating them all the same so next year I'll pay more attention to what specifically helps encourage growth between the different types. I think I'm going to go with the belief that if it's neighbour sprouted and are growing true leaves and looking great then it's unlikely those will grow. It could be the seeds I got I picked them up from Canadian Tire and Dollarama and grocery stores around as I saw them for sale. With a somewhat successful garden this year I will feel better about spending more money at a local nursery or buying local online.


    Fortunately I see I have spare seeds of most of what I grew and can pick up more if I want this weekend. I'll try direct seeding outside once the frost threat passes.

  • 10 years ago

    I've transplanted the cucumbers here into small pots of their own and they are growing really well now! Two squares didn't produce anything and one looks pitiful and didn't transplant that one with others doing so well.

  • 10 years ago
    Very nice!!
    lindavarga20 thanked Chris (6a NY)
  • 10 years ago

    They are even bigger now! That photo is a week old. My corn is now nice long leaves :)

  • 10 years ago

    Your plants look very nice. My cucumbers sprouted then died. :( How do you know how deep to plant seeds?

  • 10 years ago

    applemum, your seed packet has all the seed depth and spacing info on it - usually on the back. I think cucumbers are typically planted at about 1"(2.5cm) deep.

    Did you try growing your cucumbers indoors or outdoors?

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