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10 years ago
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Hi! Many years ago I kept African violets and orchids. At the time, I lived near Chicago, where the water was really good out of the tap, and it never got too hot. Now I started up the hobby again, here in Arizona (50 miles south of Phoenix).

My question has to do with plants that are variegated. I have watermelon snow, which I raised from a very young plant (from a friend). When I got it, it was all green, which is to be expected from such a young plant. A few weeks later, it sprouted a variegated leaf that looked more typical of watermelon snow. I'm trying to upload a picture now... not sure if it'll work. The crown leaves are almost completely green. Will they become more variegated again as the plant ages? I realize, if you can see the pic, that it looks like the plant is in too big of a pot, but I removed a few big "baby plant" leaves, and it makes the plant look smaller. It has two adorable blooms, which surprised me as it's only three months old. Any advice welcome. If you need more info, let me know. Thank you!

I see the photo didn't post. What am I doing wrong?

Comments (18)

  • 10 years ago

    Mosaic variegation is not that dependent on the temperature - and that's what 'Watermelon Snow' has. You are correct - the mature plants and fully grown leaves display mosaic variegation better.

    The only thing is - that each plant is someway different - some have more variegation than others. I expect it to start showing more white as it matures.

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you much, Irina! Going to try posting that pic again here:

  • 10 years ago

    Why can't I post pictures?

  • 10 years ago

    You select the "Photo" icon when making your posting.

    The system should prompt you to browse for the photo on your pc.

    Upon selecting the photo, the photo should upload in a moment or so.

    Anytime AFTER the photo has appeared, SUBMIT your posting.

  • 10 years ago

    It does prompt me to browse for a photo, and I select one, but it never uploads. Trying again here: Nope. Who at houzz do I contact to find out why this isn't working? Thanks for any input. :(

  • 10 years ago

    Okay, going to try it by posting to an ideabook, then here:

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  • 10 years ago

    Healthy young plant, gorgeous variegation and the color of the blossom.

    Will benefit from a bit less light, half smaller pot and sitting on a level with the rim instead of being half way inside the pot. I see you wick - for wicking purposes adding more perlite will be beneficial.

    But I am really nit-picking. Just came back from the basement where most of my plants grow - so many things to do - not enough time in a day - and not enough energy. Miss the time when I had 50 plants and thought it was a lot.

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you, Irina! I just started the hobby back up in February, so still remembering things from long ago. I have three small tabletop carts, because I'm disabled and can't deal with multi-tiered carts. I have a total of 20 plants and leaves, and plan to keep the collection small. Luckily I have a lot of self-discipline! I hope to propagate enough to be able to give plants away. If anyone here is interested, here is a list of what I have (photos coming soon):

    Redoubled, Ness' Crinkle Blue, Watermelon Snow, Mellow Yellow, Kid Karla, Rhapsody in White, Ness' Fantasy Gold, Optical Illusion, Lyon's Spectacular, Ozio, Frosty Cherry, Jolly Orchid, Gold Coins.

    Glad I found this site! It's sort of hidden within Houzz - not good for gaining members, me thinks. Anyone here think it might be better to move to a Yahoo group, or similar? I'm a programmer who has run many groups in the past.

    Anyway, thank you again, Irina!

  • 10 years ago

    This group - former Gardenweb - is an excellent group for the beginners. For more advanced growers - there are many groups on Facebook. there is Violet Voice, Violet Brat Pack - and more and more and more...

  • 10 years ago

    I'm probably the only person on earth that doesn't use FaceBook (just don't like what I've seen/heard of it). But will find another group. Thanks.

  • 10 years ago

    Well you don't HAVE to leave...we're still here ;)

  • 10 years ago

    I think I was told I don't belong here. That's cool - but it also isn't a good way to gain members.

  • 10 years ago

    DJ - I didn't tell you that you do not belong here!!! Everybody is welcome - and there are plenty experienced folks here as well.

    I joined this group 20 years ago - and still love it here. At that time I was a bumbling newbie - and Fred from NJ was my main source of info. He now grows AVs at the Violet Heaven - but his patience and knowledge - is not to be forgotten.

    We love our AVs and we love our AV friends- and this group is very warm, welcoming and fun.

    Irina


  • 10 years ago

    Aegis and Irina have put it very well. And I want to add my welcome, D.J.!

    I added this forum to my list of frequented spots some years ago because I like the GW community feeling that I found over at the Roses forums back in 1998. I belong to a few other AV groups as well (although like you I don't do Facebook) but I keep coming back here...even though Houzz has made changes - some good and some not so good. There is always something to be learned here.

  • 10 years ago

    I wish to add my welcome also. I have been following and posting on this forum for a number of years and even after thirty years of growing, I pick up new ideas from all the knowledgeable people on this site.

    I do belong to another forum group as well as many Facebook groups and while I may not care for every aspect of FB, I have to admit it presents several positives. Without FB, I would never have found the growers in my area. We have since formed a club which has been a definite plus for the learning and enjoyment of our hobby.

    Each morning, when possible, I cruise all my sites but always include this one. As stated, there are many fine people here!

  • 10 years ago

    This is actually the best site I've found for getting information whether you are a beginner or not. A lot of what people post here about AVs goes over my head, and I'm not exactly a beginner. That brings me to a question I have about variegation. :)

    Irina, you said earlier in this post that mosaic variegation isn't so much dependent on temperature. I'm very confused about the effects of environment on variegation, because I've heard so many different things. Are other types of variegation affected by temperature? And is there an article anywhere that explains all of this?

  • 10 years ago

    You probably can search google - or older AV magazines. My take - older variegated hybrids are more dependent on the temperatures than modern. Tommy Lou and crown variegation are better expressed in cool temperatures than in the heat of summer. You can see green top and white bottom in summer - and reverse in winter. That's why it is better to keep the variegated plants on the lower shelves in summer where it is cooler. I find that crown variegation also depends on the intensity of the light - plant can turn to total green if the light is low - and overly variegated if it is under high light. My experience with mosic variegated plants is limited - I never had too many of them - but what I had seemed


    to do the same in winter and in summer.

    This standard trailer 23-Reka Moskva increases variegtion on the high light.