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Mortgage Lifter - need advice

10 years ago

I tried Mortgage Lifter this year here in N. FL and it isn't doing too well. Didn't do my research, I guess, and planted in the spring not realizing it is a long-growing variety. I don't know what strain of seeds they are, because I got them in a sampler pack of 10 different heirloom varieties and they were just labeled "Mortgage Lifter."

I'm not impressed so far, and may pull it and try again in the fall, or take it off the list. It seems to have picked up an early blight, even though none of my other tomatoes are affected. Plus, it won't pollinate. We have had some pretty hot weather, but mornings and evenings are way below 85F, and all my other tomatoes are setting fruit.

Is it just not suited to the Florida climate? I have not found a lot of my favorite beefsteaks to do well here. I also tried Park's Whopper and it didn't do well either. Cherokee Purple seems to be the only beefsteak I have real success with.

Comments (8)

  • 10 years ago

    Well I can tell you it does fine in my summer 100+ degree heat and 90+ humidity and is no more susceptible to pest or disease issues then any of my other varieties.

    But there are so many variables involved in successfully growing tomatoes and the specific variety isn't one of the main ones. So while we are always tempted to lay the problems off on the variety itself, the real problems are usually other issues.

    Keep in mind that many Florida growers grow many of the thousand or so beefsteak varieties quite successfully so the odds are it is the type of growing conditions - planting time, soil, container size if applicable, feeding and watering regimen, etc. - that need to be re-evaluated.

    You might want to post on the Florida Gardening forum and ask there which varieties, planting times, etc. folks there find most successful.

    Dave

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you Dave, but Arizona and Florida are worlds apart in climate. I've found that there are a good many tomatoes that will grow in dryer or cooler climates that don't do well here. I did put a post up on FL gardening. Someone said when I planted it back in the winter that they had not had any luck with it, so maybe it's one of those varieties that just isn't made for FL. Since I'm treating it just like all my others, and they are doing well, I think that may well be the case.

  • 10 years ago

    It's entirely possible that it just doesn't do well there, as you say. I chuckled when you said Cherokee Purple is the only beefsteak you have real success with - it's one of the few that just will not do anything for me here. Frustrating.

  • 10 years ago

    Not sure what Arizona has to do with what I said. I'm in Arkansas and I don't think AZ ever has 90+ % humidity while it is common for me as I live on the shore of one of the country's biggest lakes.

    That said, even in Arizona it is the growing conditions provided rather than the variety that determines success. Just think, if folks in Texas can grow Siberian varieties and folks in Canada can grow South Carolina bred varieties then variety isn't the issue. :-)

    Dave


  • 10 years ago

    From all the review I have read at different times and places, I think that maybe there is more than just one strain of RC Mortgage Lifter. This can happen to OP varieties in a century. ML was bred in 1930s (?). JMO

    Sey

  • 10 years ago

    There is a great difference in how varieties perform under different growing conditions. Dave has it all wrong. Dr Randy Gardner, retired NC State, has said that because of soil diseases the southeast cannot grow most heirloom varieties unless grafted onto resistant rootstock. He has also mentioned that some heirloom varieties do have small degrees of resistance to certain diseases. Mortgage Lifter may not be well suited to your area.

    In the northeast it grows ok but I am not impressed with the fruits. Taste and fruit appearance are not much different than many hybrid red varieties that it just cannot compete with in production.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I tried both Mortgage Lifter and Park's Whopper.

    Both had good taste (far from Brandywine's AWESOME taste, imho.)

    Mortgage Lifter was more productive than Park's Whopper.

    But the size of Park's Whopper fruits, was way bigger than Mortgage
    Lifter.

    I might plant them again.