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Camellia identification?

10 years ago

Growing in Devon, England (I know this is not the best place to ask, but there's no uk equivalent of this forum). Late flowering (mid April). White buds, flowers white with sometimes very slight tinge of pink, but 1 in 100 or so is pink.

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  • 10 years ago

    I agree with Virginia, the typical leaves, size and color of the bloom, it looks pretty much like Lady Vansittart. On the third Photo you can see a color mututation, which has its own name..... Your´s Truly.

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  • 10 years ago

    Thank you both very much, I think that nails it. Beautiful plant, and I didn't even think I liked camellias till I bought this house!

  • 10 years ago

    i disagree and think the shape of the flowers and size are not right for lady vansittart. the petals are too pointed and the flowers too small. but i can't offer and alternative i.d., either.

  • 10 years ago

    Jeff, have a look at the camellia photos link above and compare the photos of Marlorena's known 'LVS' (also grown in the UK) to the OP's photos. Then scroll down for more photos of Marlorena's 'LVS' a bit later in the season... Looks a bit more like what we see here.

    'Lady Vansittart' is famously variable as to color and form, and if UK growers favored the pointier bloom shape for propagation, it would seem plausible that their clones would more consistently have "pointier" blooms. I've seen blooms of that shape here, just not as often... The blooms are usually larger here, too, but that could be down to climactic differences.

    But those leaves! Who else could have those leaves?

    Virginia

  • 10 years ago

    The photo identified as lvs in England at http://www.haw.org.uk/greencombe/may3.html is certainly the same plant as mine. I agree other internet images are of fuller and rounder flowers.

  • 10 years ago

    It is very rare to see a LVS camellia here with so many pale blooms. It is quite variable here, and a mature plant probably will have some blooms like that, but most will be more highly colored.

    The difference could be human selection; if growers in the UK chose to propagate from branches that had paler flowers. Or there may be something else going on with differences in climate or other growing conditions. But I do think you're correct in your ID.

    Enjoy!

    Virginia


  • 10 years ago

    In traveling to England and Europe, I have found that a number of the varieties there with the same names as ours have more pointed petals than ours.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I've only just noticed this thread, but as Virginia said, that Camellia is 'Lady Vansittart' without a doubt...

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you! and thanks to everyone else for their input.

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