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stunted tomato plants, need help!

10 years ago

hey, i'm a first time gardener down in tampa, florida.. i planted 5 indeterminate tomatoes and 5 determinate tomatoes (4oz ones from home depot) in my backyard in a 50/50 mix of garden soil and native soil.. for a month, all were growing just fine, some even setting fruit early on.. i water them almost every day, depending on how hot it is during the day (it's been getting close to 90 degrees). i have given them a 2-5-3 water soluble fertilizer twice and now a month and a half since planting them, it seems all of them have stopped growing.. the new growth tips all seem like they have some kind of deficiency.. i have been looking all through forums and blogs and any website to find a similar problem so i can know what the problem is but i haven't found anything yet.. i can't tell if it's an iron or calcium or phosphorus or magnesium problem.. and i doesn't seem like it's a virus or bacteria.. the color of the space between the veins of the new growth tips of leaves are bright green, as if the green color fades from dark green to bright green to almost white as it goes from the veins outward.. if anyone knows what problem i am having with my tomato plants is in the pictures below, please let me know!. i would really appreciate help, this has been driving me nuts for weeks..

Comments (17)

  • 10 years ago

    Magnesium deficiency? Whenever I've had a plant develop a magnesium deficiency, that's what it looks like. Citrus gets it too, looks just like that, but I don't have a picture handy.


    The basic description is that inter-vein areas turn yellow symmetrically on the leaves, starting more on the edges and working to the center vein. Treatment is Epsom salts dissolved in water and applied to the soil.

  • 10 years ago

    i don't think it's the magnesium deficiency because that usually affects the older leaves.. whatever deficiency my plants have is affecting mostly the new growth.. the older, already established leaves are normal.

  • 10 years ago

    Looks like possible CMV (cucumber mosaic virus) to me.

    Dave

  • 10 years ago

    actually after looking some more i think i have come to the conclusion that it may be TYLCV (tomato yellow leaf curl virus) and apparently it's the most destructive problem to have with tomatoes.. lucky me!. how unfortunate.

  • 10 years ago

    Whatever the problem turns out to be, watering every day doesn't sound like a good strategy to me. Shallow roots, moist soil surface that breeds nasties. Stick your finger in the soil and see if it is moist an inch or two down. If not then water.

  • 10 years ago

    At first look, I thought Mg deficiency, but at closer look, you can see distorted stems and leaves, so I am leaning towards Cucumber Mosaic Virus.

    I also see quite a bit of leaf miner damage. I wonder if they are vectors?

  • 10 years ago

    WoW! I am thinking I have this CMV too! I have been fighting aphids on my cucumbers too.

  • 10 years ago

    I am thinking now I might re-think planting cucumbers close to my tomato plants...what do you think?

  • 10 years ago

    it's definitely TYLCV.. the plant still grows if infected with CMV.. my plants have all completely stopped growing the moment the leaves showed signs of this problem.

  • 10 years ago

    I was thinking thinking more along the lines of root knot nematodes. Or edema with heat stress. Uneven drainage with overwatering can do that as well.

  • 10 years ago

    Ah, good catch everyone. Thousand lashes with a wet noodle for me.

  • 10 years ago

    Nobody mentioned herbicide !!

    Sey

  • 10 years ago

    Because it doesn't have the look of herbicide damage. The discoloring is too diffuse and the yellowing is on the wrong parts of the leaf.

    I'll stick with CMV given the diffuse effect and the stunted growth pattern. TYLCV usually has a more intense stem curling and takes the plant down quickly.

    Dave

  • 10 years ago

    Earlier it eluded me as what it was that a friend of mine had a problem with last year. He lives outside of Tampa in Hudson so it is close to where the OP is. It was spider mites. If you have fine looking webbing that is making the leaves curl in it is spider mites. If it is them there are ways of treating for them. Though sometimes they damage things enough that it may be a better bet to pull the plant, and start over. That is your choice.


    If you take off one of the bad leaves, and shake it over a piece of white paper they will fall off onto the paper. Or you can look at the bottom of the leaf with a magnifying glass.


    I have seen most of the it may be a virus cases turn out to be pest infestations.

  • 10 years ago

    it's not CMV.. google cmv and tylcv and check out images.. apparently it's a whitefly problem.. it got to all of my plants and they're all stunted and blooms have fallen off and they're done for.. look up TYLCV people!. it's destructive as all hell.. was first found in florida in 97.. it will wreak havoc on tomatoes across all hot and humid areas of the country.. i'm in new port richey, about 30 minutes from hudson. everyone needs to be aware of the whitefly problem because it will take down all of your tomato plants as is happening to me.. i'm practically starting over with new plants.. might get too hot by July-August but i'm going to try growing tomatoes in pots instead of the ground.. and i will keep them in my lanai to see if i can avoid the whitefly problem..

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Whiteflys will still find them even under the lanai. You need to spray as soon as you see them, and then do it for three weeks straight in order to get the new flies that hatched from the eggs.

    Have you seen whiteflys? You definitely have / had leaf miners.

  • 10 years ago

    the leaf miners were the least of my worries.. the only way tomatoes get TYLCV is by whiteflies so that had to be the problem.. i sprayed stuff but not early enough and all my tomatoes are dying now.. it's sad, i had 3 Cherokee purples that I was excited about and now all the stores that sell them sold out of the Cherokee purples..

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