I think they are the same....that smaller pup looks like it is growing possibly from a leaf cut rather than from a rhizome connected to the parent plant (like the others). The connected rhizomes receive more energy from the parent and start out larger. That smaller one looks typical of new growth growing from a leaf or similar.

The second one looks more like palens than cylindrica to me.

So a plant's pups can develop differently depending on the method by which they were "conceived"? Leaf or rhizome? These plants are a neverending stream of wonder.

Mentha, I looked at Paten and I'm not experienced enoughed to say yay or nay. I'll post a lighter pic later on. The one up there is kinda dark.

I do notice my little one is much lighter and striped, but I thought it may be because the larger one is older.

So Russ, you are saying leaf cuttings from cylindrical sans will never produce cylindrical leaves again? That is too depressing for words.

I am so looking forward to watching the pup of my small cylindrica grow! The pups on the larger one are taller every day, but the smaller one has markedly slower growth. Woodnative and you explained everything. Cutting vs natural growth.

Vitorama, do you only have cylindrica cuttings?

Well, if you mean that the little rosette of Katrina's will never be cylindrical, that's true. But some generations down the road it's great-great-great grandchildren will be big and cylindrical like Katrina's parent plant.

Russ

Katrina, I have only tried to root the dwarf cylindrica, like yours, so far unsuccessfully. It been in rooting since February and shows no signs of hope. If the cylindrical leaf plants take years to come true to form, I wouldn't bother propagating them anymore.

Yeah...that's a bummer if you were looking for pups that look like the parent. So do they stay rosettes and keep pupping as such? This will be interesting...and confusing

Katrina and all they will eventually "grow up" to look like the parent....all of them. The little rosettes have to gain energy, in which they will produce a little larger pup.....which will eventually produce a larger pup etc. until it is just like the parent. It is just a process of maturation. The offsets/pups from that mature plants have more size and energy so can skip a few steps, if that makes sense?

So the plant will keep producing larger rosettes until it is mature enough to produce a cylinder shaped pup like the pups on my mature plant?

And this is because the pup is from a cutting, not from a fully matured plant?

Just when rules are given, some break them. My cuttings of Cylinder produced smaller version of itself. Still keeping the cylinder shaped leaves. Sorry, no pictures at this time. Maybe tomorrow.

Stush

Katrina, bigger plants have more energy, so produce bigger pups. I notice that your smaller cylindrica has light banding on the leaves, but the big one is solid green which I guess is much more mature. Even the offsets are darker green with barely-visible banding.

Stush, I probably overstated small rosettes with flat, non-cylindrical leaves like Katrina's first pic. After thinking back some years to propagating cylindrica, I do remember getting some tiny plants from leaf propagation with cylindrical leaves in a loose rosette similar to what you probably have. But they're still generations away from being large, mature plants.

Katrina's big plants of cylindrica have leaves that are all 'in a line'. If anyone gives a hoot, the term for this 'in-line' growth is 'distichous'. Only reason I know this is there are aloes with this growth habit, and I used to grow a lot of them.

Russ