Oh great job!

I cannot speak as for others, but for me, seeing actual photos showing the existing space helps so much.

I can tell that you read carefully everything suggested in your previous thread.

Posting the overhead view with dimensions of the kitchen, plus the whole floor surrounding it is exactly what is needed. Again good job!

This should get things a Rollin '...

Projects of this size and scope belong under the header of LOCAL design help. An architect/kitchen designer type help in your area, and in your space. Having a cabinet maker on standby is fine, but any re-do of this scope requires excellent planning. That help can lead you to an excellent contractor, and the sub trades that will be necessary including plumbing and electrical, drywall ....all of it..

Hi Jan,

Thanks for the comment. I have an excellent contractor who is taking care of the the work, but he is not a designer. That said, I am seeking local help at this time (will post suggestions here) but I really would like to see what the community has to offer.

Andre, I know you said in your other thread that it was very expensive to expand into the back yard plus you have a basement. A challenge here is that the existing kitchen is just 11 feet wide -- too narrow for an island. Your office is 12' wide so losing 2' would make it just 10' wide -- again small.

What if you did a bump out of 2 feet along the back of the kitchen so you are basically extending the bay window across the width of the back of the house. Essentially this would be hanging off the side of the house rather than a new foundation. You'd have to check with your contractor of course but I've certainly seen houses built this way. With 13 feet of width you'd have 2' counter + 4' aisle + 3' island + 4' for seating and would be able to basically do what you proposed originally.

To the left of the sliding glass door is the kitchen. To the right of the sliding glass door are the laundry room and two rooms, what are the two rooms?

There is the two car garage with a utility area. Below the laundry room is the mud room with a closet. This is the main everyday entrance into the house.

Could you change the in-kitchen slider to a counter height window and convert the bay window in the dining area to an exterior door? This will shift the back-yard outdoor traffic out of the main kitchen area.

Hi Everyone,

I think there is some confusion regarding the traffic of the house. Of course there is the main entrance at the top of the plan near the stairs, but this is only for guests. The main entrance is on the side as shown here;

I also think these bird eye pictures help too

Truth is a "community" of suggestions is not nearly as helpful as professional on site design. A wealth of appropriate, , creative, and plausible answers can be had in that (on site) method. Saves time and $$$ and yields more result JMHO.: )

I really like CPartist's plan because it prevents people from tramping through the main cooking area (you could also add a lot of windows so the cook gains a beautiful view of the outside).

If those aren't load bearing walls on the mudroom/closet side you could both take from that space and make it more functional.

Hi,

I have hired a professional designer and she will be seeing the house today. I will be putting up the draft layout she will be providing for your feedback.

In the meantime (more for curiosity sake) I have added some of the old plans that didn't make the cut. l.

Before everyone starts criticizing/asks, I am aware that traffic flow is an issue for many of these plans.

Hi Everyone, (HELP!)

These are the plans I got from the designer; (and I hate them) The one on the left is NOT acceptable. I have no plans in loosing the office. I just don't quite know how to respond. To me, it feels like they never did a kitchen.

I can't disagree with you Andre. Putting the cooktop on the island like that? Sheesh.

Do you want to take room from the den room or not? If not, maybe look at what I did again. i can put it with exact measurements. Or maybe beuhl can come up with something better.

(It's not the first time we've seen KD's who do worse than the folks here on GW do.)

I don`t think I want to take room from the den. From the plans offered, the den/office becomes 7x8 ft - way to small to be used comfortably. I would rather use the space I have in the kitchen, while opening the wall. The only other thing I would consider would be to remove the patio door completely.

They may never have done a decent kitchen. That's why so many of us went looking and found this forum...

do you want me to work up the plan I suggested with cabinets etc?

Or maybe bethel or one of the others here have some better ideas

Hi,

I know it's been a while since my last post, but I have finally finished the kitchen.

Please let me know if you have any questions.