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Endless Summer officially ends

life is too short to bother with a plant that is not garden worthy..too far away from any of you that could have success so it will be compost..11 years of disappointment has come to an end..

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  • 10 years ago

    So, you now have a plethora of possibilities for the piece of real estate that ES was utilizing! Have you thought what you will replace it with?

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked luis_pr
  • 10 years ago

    That's pretty crappy looking for 11 years. Haha. A couple of mine have needed to be moved/potted/replanted a couple of times but I've not lost one in 8 years (ES Original).

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked October_Gardens
  • 10 years ago

    luis - not sure yet..want to make a good decision this time

    springwood - it didn't die..was waist high & fully leafed out but bloomless..posted a pic on my macrophylla update post..just hacked it down!..didn't bloom with winter protection & I've thrown in the towel..

    tsugajunkie - no more worrying about this dumb shrub for me!

  • 10 years ago

    jGood for you. I think its a sign of maturation to know when to stop investing precious time in unrewarding plants. One might know that a hydrangea petiolaris often takes 5 years to get a few blooms and that is patience well applied.

    But a plant like the much touted Endless Struggle isn't worth more than 3 years. If growers were ever held accountable for truth in advertising....or at least adequate plant trials in a variety of climates ....there would be a lot fewer frustrated gardeners.

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked Marie Tulin Boston burbs z 6a
  • 10 years ago

    Marie - I admit I enjoyed cutting it down!!..the marketing is dishonest in my opinion..too bad it doesn't bloom for everyone..I'm sticking with tried & true..

  • 10 years ago

    Off with its Head!!!!! Good for you nicholsworth55. I have to confess to a feeling of power when I make the same decision!

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked ophoenix
  • 10 years ago

    ophoenix - feels great to take charge..decided NOT to feel guilty destroying a plant - if I don't enjoy it..

  • 10 years ago

    I agree - Endless Summer was a real loser for me. Last summer it was a huge plant that didn't produce a single bloom! And its advertised to bloom on new wood - well, mine sure didn't, here in zone 6 NJ, and that was kind of the whole point of the plant, or so I thought. Anyway, I banished mine to what I call "Botany Bay" - the back end of the garden that is shady and weedy. When plants get banished there, they either survive or don't but get no help from me. (I guess the only reason I didn't toss it is that I figured that back there, even if it doesn't bloom, at least it will crowd out some weeds as a green plant). Much MUCH better, for me, is Twist and Shout - it really DOES bloom on new wood! Plus I think its lace cap style flowers are much prettier than Endless Summer. Nikko Blue is pretty reliable, and Blue Billow is great (though surprisingly hard to find!)

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked User
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    ES Original *should work* for everybody in moist, rich dark organic soil and with high phosphorus fertilizer. Sun or shade the leaves should get very large and the plant should reach 4x4' every season, and bloom. If not, there is something amiss.

    Blushing Bride would be the most susceptible to freeze damage and shyest to bloom. Never got more than 3-4 blooms on any plant for 6+ years now.

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked October_Gardens
  • 10 years ago

    frances - my feelings exactly!!..big green dud..didn't even banish mine somewhere I was that sick of it..Twist & Shouts r better..have 2 & they're blooming!..

    springwood - TRULY believe that my climate is "amiss"..have 3 neighbors plus myself that r disappointed..how could all 4 of us be bad gardeners?(we're not)..mine was 11 yrs old!..

  • 10 years ago

    Location (and the corresponding winters/temps) makes a huge difference, so I don't think they "should work" for everybody. Where I am, I absolutely have to cover and keep them covered until mid to late April if I want flowers. They also like an Eastern exposure. Mine are all covered with buds right now, and a few are just starting to turn pink.

    I still had a tough hydrangea year though. I have a bunch of Annabelles I've had for years (10+?, and I lost all or part of quite a few.

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked ruth_mi
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Not pointing fingers - sometimes things just don't work out. I've had countless smaller perennials literally disappear into the earth with no trace to be seen and was left wondering what I did wrong! :P

    (I've now had ESO's on all directional exposures and 4-6 hours of sun, but some have taken a few dig-outs and relocations to make happy.)

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked October_Gardens
  • 10 years ago

    ruth - u made me feel better..I did keep it alive for 11 years..disappointed that with protection still NO blooms so I called it quits..

    springwood - still say ESO does not perform as claimed in my zone..where r the blooms on 11 yrs of new wood?

  • 10 years ago

    I have an Endless Summer that is small, but does make blooms. My mother got one 10 years ago and it is huge, and sometimes it makes blooms and sometimes it doesn't. Frankly, I've given up on all macrophylla type hydrangeas in this climate. Even the local Ag extension said all the stems and buds on macrophylla hydrangeas were killed off this winter and should be cut to the ground. At least with ES there is a chance I might get a few blooms on new growth since last year's growth is all dead. Someone gave me an unlabeled lace-cap last summer and the poor thing has barely any new growth and the old is all dead. I'm on to Paniculatas and Aborecens (excuse my spelling)!

    nicholsworth Z6 Indianapolis thanked ruth0552
  • 10 years ago

    ruth0552 - I agree..try Quick Fire..mine r new but I love them..Annabelles r wonderful too..