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Did I make a mistake with my Bantel's?

10 years ago

I rescued a Bantel's from HD about 2 months ago and potted it up with 50/50 Cactus/Perlite. I've watered it once or twice. About a week ago while watering other plants I noticed it was still kinda wobbly. The leaves are firm and upright as normal. Yesterday I unpotted it to see what was going on. It was dry...as in dusty when I poured the soil out dry. My roots were dry and brittle; dusty looking. I could just lightly pull them and they came off, like they were shedding. I didn't pull all the roots off, I potted it back up and gave it a thorough watering, let the water run out and watered it again. It's now getting bright light, no direct sun. For fear of overwatering it, it seems I've severely under watered it.

The first Bantel's I bought is fine, but it's in Regular MG with a little Perlite. That one came before I knew about proper mixes so it doesn't dry out as quickly, even in the clay pot.

What happens if the roots just turn into "dust" and die off? How can I keep from losing the whole plant? It looks very healthy, but the roots weren't pretty.

Comments (24)

  • 10 years ago

    For most of this month, my Sans were in mostly water. Going around tipping over their pots to keep the water out. We had lots of heavy rain and the Sans loved it. Totally drenched in water and loving it. It is warm outside and this is their growing season. Do try this in winter when they are sleeping.

    Katrina thanked Stush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6
  • 10 years ago
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    Yes, the sans I have outside for the summer do enjoy a rain or a good watering with the hose. What concerns me though is the possibility of crown rot and the invasion of mites. I posted in Sept. 2014 on what happened to a Whitney and Moonhine with the afore mentioned. Happy to say both are still doinig well thanks to the insectide with 20% sulfur I used. Stush and Roberto2 gave good advice. Scarring is evident on the growth that WAS affected but new growth is prestine. Then there is the occasional grasshopper, bird, squirrel.

  • 10 years ago
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    Stush I think you meant to say do Not try this in winter.

    Scars just give the plant character, means they are survivors! (not to encourage scars just saying gives them character)

  • 10 years ago

    Ok that's good news. These darn things are as nerve wracking as having babies. They can't tell you what they want; you have to watch for clues. Bantel's has such pretty coloring and form, I'd hate to lose him.

    So at this point with possible damaged roots, do I water him as I would normally; when dry?

  • 10 years ago

    And I agree with your comments on more water in this heat. Some get watered twice a week and they're pupping/growing like crazy. We've had some 90s.

  • 10 years ago

    Not for nothing, but a HD that carries Bantel's Sensation?? Plus that other killer Sans greenhouse? I'm so jealous! (Jk) I'm sure you BS will be fine. Post a pic!!

  • 10 years ago

    Katrina, I wouldn't keep the sans real moist right now, if it's truly been dry for a long time I'd keep it on the dry side with light but regular waterings, maybe every 3 days. Let it get used to having water over a couple of weeks and slowly increase. Basically you're rerooting the plant, like a cutting that never had roots.

    Russ

    Katrina thanked Russ1023 (central Fla)
  • 10 years ago

    Yes Vitorama, my HD has Bantel's! I bought 2 for 7.88 each. The first one I bought is growing nicely. The 2nd one...well you know the story :-)

    Thanks Russ. I'll let it dry out and water sparingly then gradually increase.

  • 10 years ago

    Keep us posted Katrina.

    Russ

  • 10 years ago
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    Sans2014, Yes I did mean Don't not Do. Thank you for pointing that out. That would be a big mistake.

    Russ gave good advise when some thing is under watered. I lost a Aloe that way. It was too dry then overwatered it. Crown rot finished it. Base came back next year but no variegation. I was surprised to see a sprout come back from the dead. Found it cleaning the old pot out.

    Stush

  • 10 years ago

    Isn't there a plant called the resurrection plant? Should apply to succulents as well! They just keep on coming back, which is a good thing if you're trying to keep it. Too bad about the loss of variegation though.

  • 10 years ago

    Here's my recovrring one

    And here's my healthy one. It's grown a good bit.

  • 10 years ago

    They both look wonderful! Great growing Katrina!

    Katrina thanked vitorama
  • 10 years ago

    Yes, beautiful plants and beautiful patio Katrina. You do very well with sans! Are those calatheas I see in other pots?

    Stush, I love aloes. What type was the variegated one you almost lost? Interesting it came back as all-green.

    Russ

    Katrina thanked Russ1023 (central Fla)
  • 10 years ago

    Yes, I have 1 calathea. I picked it up from the nursery in New Iberia with all the sans. We finished the patio just about a month ago. It was a hard DIY project; very labor intensive but worth it. We took an 8x10 to a 14x14. Now I need to make curtains to block the evening sun.

    I think the Sans love my weather. We'll see what I have left after our little cold snaps called winter. With all the great advice here, I should be able to see them through it.

  • 10 years ago

    What comes from propagating a Bantel's?

  • 10 years ago

    Trifasciata, Katrina. There is small potential to get an albino trifasciata if the growth comes from the white tissue of the leaf cutting. If cut from the green 'mama' leaf, it will die since it doesn't have any chlorophyll.

    Calatheas are beautiful plants, but can get brown leaf tips and edges if humidity isn't high enough. I don't think you'll have that problem where you are!

    Russ

    Katrina thanked Russ1023 (central Fla)
  • 10 years ago

    When i first got my calathea, I burned some leaves with too much sun. I have to move it to keep it shaded because I find she's very touchy with Mr. Sun.

  • 10 years ago

    Russ,

    I had to stop and take pictures to show you. Name Aloe maculata saponaria variegated

    1st. picture of what it looked like before mishap. It was bigger but no picture before it died. Got it from Woodnative as a small pup back in Feb. 2012.

    I did manage to get a small pup from it before mishap that was so small that it almost didn't make it. They grew into some nice size plants now.

    And picture of surviving plant that is now just Aloe maculata saponaria which I have a few young pups from.

    Took pictures in the rain. We needed some already.

    Stush

  • 10 years ago

    Beautiful aloes. I'll have to be mindful of mine outside then, I guess. I had no idea they couldn't take a lot of sun. Is it just this variety or many?

    i used to have a houseful of calatheas. They were my absolute favorite with their beautiful leaves and then all of a sudden, they all started declining at once. It was the strangest thing. And then there were none. Bummer.


  • 10 years ago

    Take a look on Cactus and Succulents forum. I posted most of my Aloes there just now.

    Aloes can take full sun but watch out if they are variegated. It could loose it's variegation. I leave all my variegated plants in the shade including Sans and Haworthias.

    Stush

  • 10 years ago

    I always enjoy the pics all post of their collections.

  • 10 years ago

    Gorgeous aloes Stush, I really like that big one on the left in your 2nd pic, what a beauty! I have A. saponaria but haven't seen a variegated one, I'm going to check out your other aloe pics on C&S forum.

    I have a variegated A. arborescens, used to have variegated A. eru but think I've lost it. Have to check. I have eru species, maybe the variegated reverted. I think eru is aka camperi.

    I'll post some pics of a NOID large aloe , maybe you'll recognize it. Actually have several with no names.

    I have A. cameronii, rupestris with collection data, amudatensis, guillaumetii, jucunda, juvenna, lutescens, vaombe, sinkatana in yellow and red flowered forms. Small aristata and bunch of the little miniature aloes too many to name.

    Russ

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