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Gold ????

10 years ago

Hi everyone, I purchased 3 Sans in the gold family, and idk if it's just my eyes, but to me they are very similar but yet have differences that lead me to believe they are 3 diff varieties. The first pic was sold to me as "Gold Hanii"


The second as a "Gold Star"

and the 3rd had no name;

It was part of a "gold collection" of 3 diff tall and short gold plants. Any ideas?


Comments (21)

  • 10 years ago

    Hmmm...all 3 look like like golden hahnii to me. The 1st one has more green, but I still think its the same as the other 2. They're beautiful plants. Nice buy!

  • 10 years ago

    These do seem to be different color variations of Golden Hahnii. You might find that one might produce offsets of some of the others. I believe the name Gold Star is a made-up name, perhaps by the seller or a prior wholesaler. I've seen clusters of dozens and dozens of Golden Hahnii, and the variations among the individual plants were astounding and beautiful.

    You'll have less trouble with the one in the top pic since it has more green to make chlorophyll. But the others aren't too bad regarding amount of green vs variegation. There are types with very little green, especially on the margins, that are the devil to grow. One is called Hahnii Solid Gold, a single watering at the wrong time and they can go to mush very quickly.

    Russ

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks for the info Russ... I found an Asian website that has about 50 varieties of Hahniis, and many of them have that gold look, but they all have different names. So one of these days when I'm bored I will compare those pics to mine. Have a great evening...

    BTW, the name Gold Star was used by various growers in diff sites I looked into, but yes, I do find that certain growers/sellers mislabel or give certain plants new names...

  • 10 years ago

    Mary, IMO wholesalers are at least partially to blame for the erroneous names out there. Sellers seem unwilling to market an unidentified sans without a name, so they make one up. Unfortunately, seeing a name repeated on websites of several different sellers is not confirmation the name is correct. And once the bogus name is 'out there', there's no correcting it.

    S. masoniana has been called 'Whale's Tail' by sellers, the very dark form of trifasciata is officially 'Black Gold', but it has many made-up names used by sellers. The common 'Futura Simplex' has several bogus names.

    The Thai's are prolific with their own names, and tend to name everything. But they have an excuse since they're in another country, not so much regarding US sellers.

    Russ

  • 10 years ago

    I agree Russ...

  • 10 years ago

    Russ, we are so lucky to have you on our site. Keep up the post.

    That first one, looks a lot like my 'Hardy Gold Hahnii'. I think it might be called S. t. hahnii 'Lucille Polen'. When I Googled it, it showed pictures of mine show here in garden web.

    Stush

    Mary978 thanked Stush2049 Pitts. PA, zone 6
  • 10 years ago

    Thanks Stush! I've heard of Lucille Polen but haven't seen one in the flesh. I've seen pics, perhaps in an old ISS Journal, it looked like one of the many variations of Golden Hahnii. The differences in some of these variations are sometimes subtle, a little more or less green, a little more or less yellow. I've seen pics of named varieties with the word 'Tartan' in the name, I suppose referencing the greenish crosshatched look of the wide center stripe.

    Russ

  • 10 years ago

    Stush, do you mean this one?

  • 10 years ago

    Lucille Polen or whatever she's called is a gorgeous plant, Stush! Nice find!

  • 10 years ago

    Beautiful!

  • 10 years ago

    Stush, that Golden Hahnii variation is stunning, wow!! The green edges are wider than most and they have flecks of yellow through the edges on newer leaves, perhaps where banding might normally show. Those flecks fade as the leaf ages leaving a dark green edge.

    I'll look through my old ISS Journals to see if there are pics showing what it's supposed to look like. Here's a link to Lucille Polan as sold by Glasshouse Works. Looks like a Golden Hahnii with green edges to me, maybe that's what Lucille Polan is.

    Stush, I think you said in another thread that you lost a beautiful Hahnii, and it was in a pic from 2013. Is the the one you lost?

    Russ

  • 10 years ago
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    Russ, If you are talking about Hahnii Siebert, then yes. 'Akrrm' was gracious enough to send me a nice replacement.

    The unknown Gold Hahnii I am talking about came from Ebay and I asked the seller who is no Sans expert if it was Lucille Polan or another Gold Hahnii, or Streaker, she sad absolutely no. It was special of it's own. She has not sold or posted anymore Sans. No history or where she got it from. She called it 'Sansevieria WEIRD!!!! - OUTSTANDING COLORS!!!!!'.

  • 10 years ago

    Stush, I was talking about the Hahnii in your pic, wondered if it was the one you lost.

    So you must still have the outstanding one in the pic. I was going to say in my post above that I'd bet it doesn't throw offsets that look like it, probably produce regular Golden Hahnii pups or something similar. What have progeny looked like, if any?

    Russ

  • 10 years ago

    Russ, Offshoots are just like the parent. Did not deviate any. Just as dark and lovely. I was holding off taking pictures till another month when bigger and better. Checking for file photos.

  • 10 years ago

    Love it Stush!

  • 10 years ago

    Gorgeous plants, Stush!

  • 10 years ago
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    I can't decide whether Whitney or Golden Hahnii is my absolute fave. Goldens are just so delicate looking and the yellow and green together really catches my eye. Stush's huge one dated Aug 14 is amazing. I can't wait for mine to grow out and start pups.

  • 10 years ago

    Both beautiful Sans... My absolute faves are the Whitney and the blacks; I'm waiting on a Black Robusta from a forum member... So excited!

  • 10 years ago

    Katrina, you've picked a black Cadillac and a yellow Corvette for favorites. The Whitney is big, luxurious and subtle, the little Hahnii's racy gold colors and contrast are pretty much in your face.

    Stush, so your outstanding Golden Hahnii seems to be a fixed cultivar. This surprises me, in a good way. Very interesting!! Looking forward to seeing new pics in a month or so when they're bigger.

    Russ


  • 10 years ago

    Perfectly put, Russ! My Cadi and my Vette!

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