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10 years ago

I'm so excited, I had to share.

Futura Simplex, 3 Golden Hahniis, S. 'Lake Sibaya' and parva 'Gilt Edge'.

Comments (39)

  • 10 years ago

    How exciting! They're beautiful, betcha more are on the way!

    vitorama thanked NextObsession?
  • 10 years ago

    Ooo.....aaaa. Lovely. Especially on Golden hahnii! So far I haven't killed one this year....

    vitorama thanked enterotoxigenic000
  • 10 years ago

    I almost did, but they recovered. Phew!

  • 10 years ago
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    Very cool! Looks like your sans are getting in high gear for the summer.

    S. sp. 'Lake Sibaya' is one of my favorite spoon-leaved types. It should have a purple color on the lower part of the petioles. Another fav is 'Sudwalla Caves', I love these exotic-sounding names and always wonder what these places in Africa look like.

    Russ

    vitorama thanked Russ1023 (central Fla)
  • 10 years ago

    Must be pup season!

  • 10 years ago
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    Russ,

    I wondered about the Lake Sibaya because I remembered reading about the purple at the bottom of the leaves. This one has none. Should I be questioning its species then?

    I have had a Sudwalla Caves for a long time and absolutely love it. It has deep purple leaf bases. So pretty! I always wondered how Sans grew in caves!

  • 10 years ago

    I like those too, missed an opp on eBay recently - ya snooze ya lose.

  • 10 years ago

    What? A sans that grows in caves?

  • 10 years ago

    I doubt it, it might be lost in translation.

  • 10 years ago

    Probably Stush. I was just imagining.

    NextO, I don't have enough to give you a plant, but would you like to try you hand at a leaf cutting of Sudwalla Cave and Lake Sibaya?

  • 10 years ago

    Golden Hahnii pups are my unicorn. Mine grow out the top, but no pups. Your babies are precious.

    vitorama thanked Katrina
  • 10 years ago

    Sorry Lori, I misspoke on Lake Sibaya having purple petioles. Of course as you know, it's Sudwalla Caves with the colored petioles. Lake Sibaya's petioles are plain, so you're good on the ID with the sans you pictured. I often get these two mixed up. I received them both in 1998 from Alice Waidhofer with loose labels in the box, and the labels remained switched for several years before I realized I had them reversed.

    Sudwalla Caves was discovered in the area of the caves and was named for the them as a landmark. Likewise, sp, Lake Sibaya was found near the lake and so hence the name. Chahinian says Sudwalla Caves grows to a foot high, none of my leaves have grown quite that long.

    I have several unnamed concinna spoon-leaf types of various sizes, plus sp. Lav. 5933. I think I still have sp. Lav. 5949 which is larger. I really like these 'spoons' because of the unusual leaf shapes and because they're smaller size plants.

    Actually, S. fasciata looks to me like a giant spoon-leaf type but it's not considered one. On my plants, petioles are narrow and then leaves flare out and widen, similar to the 'spoons'. Chahinian doesn't mention this in his description in The Splendid Sansevieria, but my fasciata's have a distinctive orange blush on petioles.

    Katrina, keep the faith, I'm sure you'll get pups soon.

    Russ






  • 10 years ago

    That's ok, Russ, I'm just happy not to have another mis-identified sans! It is funny you mention having different spoon types. I have a few too. I should post them for you to see. One has dark green, small leaves and I bought it as concinna. Another has long skinny leaves and I bought it as concinna(more reliable source though). Then I bought a third NOID spoon, small leaves, dark green yet different from the first. I really wish I knew what I have.

    Oh, and my Sudwalla Caves is easily a foot tall. And I recently bought a fasciata and mine is fat and stubby. Would not describe it as spoon like at all. More thick leaved like a rafillii or nitida. Interesting, eh?

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks Lori, I'd like to see pics of your unidentified spoons. And especially your fasciata. I'll try to post a pic of mine tomorrow, it came from a collector in England in 2002.

    One of my spoons says on the label 'sp. Socotra, not dwarf'.

    My sp. Lav. 5933 was field collected 20 kilometers west of Vilanculos, Mozambique. Label also says 'sp. Socotra Dwarf'. Guess I need to Google 'Socotra' to see where that is.

    Best, Russ

    vitorama thanked Russ1023 (central Fla)
  • 10 years ago

    It would be nice to have a new thread showing pictures of all your concinnas, spoons.

  • 10 years ago

    Vitorama, if you have a leaf to spare, I would definitely give it a go. That's very kind of you to offer. Is there anything of mine you're hankering for?

  • 10 years ago

    Absolutely, Barbara, and great idea! It would actually be fun to have separate posts where each of us could post our plant matching the title species or hybrid. This way we could all compare what we have, possibly correct it if it's wrong. I'll start the coccinna thread.

    NextO, I'm going to pm you.

  • 10 years ago

    Barb, thanks for the idea!!

    Lori, I'll contribute pics of spoons once you post it.

    Russ

    vitorama thanked Russ1023 (central Fla)
  • 10 years ago

    I never thought I'd see a pup on this masoniana periclonal but here she is!

  • 10 years ago

    What a beauty! How exciting! I'm so happy for you!

    vitorama thanked NextObsession?
  • 10 years ago

    Look how cute! Thats a very nice color on your plant. So will this Masoniana grow as big as those NextO posted?

  • 10 years ago

    I'm not sure Katrina. I kind of doubt it but you never know!

  • 10 years ago

    Ooo...aaaa, beautiful.

  • 10 years ago

    Very nice Lori! The mericlinal and periclinal nonsense is too much in the botanic weeds for me and it bores me to tears. But the results are quite pretty.

    Russ


  • 10 years ago

    I don't know what it all means, Russ. This was another JC purchase.

  • 10 years ago

    I've read about it in one of the Sans Journals, big detailed article by Chahinian if I remember right. And other articles as well. But it doesn't interest me in the least. In general I prefer green sans and those with some variegation, but I do admire the highly variegated ones that others grow.

    Russ

    vitorama thanked Russ1023 (central Fla)
  • 10 years ago

    So when it grows into a beast, I shouldn't offer you a pup? LOL

  • 10 years ago

    You got me on that one Lori!!!! Of course I'd accept such a beautiful piece of botanical artwork! But I won't hold you to it....

    Too bad we're not neighbors, you're really funny!

    Russ

  • 10 years ago

    Thank you! We would be in so much trouble if we were neighbors, Russ. No greenhouse would be safe!

  • 10 years ago

    "Botanical Artwork". Perfect! Sounds like a picture book *hint hint*

  • 10 years ago

    A couple more pups while I'm at it.

    Sans trifasciata X desertii

    Cut him off, whoops.

    Good 'ole Futura looking beastly

    And caespitosa

  • 10 years ago

    I found a few more today!

    Supposedly patens but who knows:

    Supposedly concinna but who knows:

    Now these two are from Cactus King, who I so brutally maligned in Katrina's post so I guess I should rescind my venomous words.

    Lastly is my slowest ever, I never thought would grow another leaf ever, nitida. Tiny, but there is hope.

    Tada!

  • 10 years ago

    Wow, must be something in the water over there....I concur, Nitida is a sulker.

    vitorama thanked NextObsession?
  • 10 years ago

    Cuties for sure! My patens is growing a pup from the inside. I'll post in when it's light out. The concinna and nitida are so cute!

    You simply spoke truth about Cactus King. I saw it first hand. Sans seem to have a will to live like no other though.

    vitorama thanked Katrina
  • 10 years ago

    Here's my Patens pup coming out of the middle.

    vitorama thanked Katrina
  • 10 years ago

    So exciting!

  • 10 years ago

    Why do our pups look different? Is it the same as that deal with the Cylindrica, where the cuttings rosette, but the rhizome pups are cylindrical? I love Sans but some confuse me something awful.

  • 10 years ago

    I wondered the same, Katrina! I don't even get the open rosettes on the patens. Makes no sense to me.

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