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Climber for Phoenix area

Hello, guys! I'm residing on Rose forum... I'm a beginner in the rose journey. Have some luck with modern roses... It turned out (no wonder) that not all roses take this Phoenix (AZ) heat... But now looking at some pictures of climbers I started dreaming about them on the walls of my fence. I have a square of fake grass in the corner of my yard (the inheritance from previous owners). And I want to plant couple of climbers on both sides to fill those naked break walls. One wall will face north, another one will be facing east. I would like to have big climber, with a lot of flowers, not leggy, big blooms, repeating flowering... and the most important that neither leaves nor blooms would fry in our scorching sun. Well, at least the foliage would stay green during summer... Do I want to much? Is there any kind of climber that can satisfy this list? I think I can cross off big size of the blooms if its blooms will cover the plant when blooming... AquaEyes suggested to come here and ask you about such wonder :) I will really appreciate any suggestions!

Comments (13)

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    What color(s) blooms are you searching for?

    Off the top of my head:

    Eden

    Alister Stella Gray

    Sombreuil grew as fast as weeds, but this was years ago, and in an area where it received filtered sun.

    It is not an antique, but Don Juan is very fragrant, I grew it in full sun, the leaves never scorched. It actually bloomed when temperatures hit 110-113 degrees.


    Many climbers are leggy, but get shrubs, perennials or something planted near their feet

    Natasha (Chandler AZ 9b) W thanked Lynn-in-TX-Z8b- Austin Area/Hill Country
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Oh fragrance... yes, that would be awesome to have fragrant climber :) I don't have preferences in colors really... as I noticed majority of climbers either white, pink or red... I've been thinking about Don Juan too... It is good to know it did pretty good for you on Las Vegas, Desertgarden-Las Vegas! I will check others, thanks!

  • 10 years ago

    How high and wide are the walls you want them to cover, Natasha?

  • 10 years ago

    The length of the space is pretty big... I don't have the picture of the entire corner so far... only the chunk of it... and the height of the wall is approx. 6ft...

    so from this corner between fake grass(right) and the lemon tree... and I want to train the rose from there to the right...

  • 10 years ago

    So, you're looking for two climbers, each to cover a wall 6ft high by about 12 - 15ft wide? Heat-tolerant, and with a high degree of shade tolerance for the north facing wall and slightly less so for the east-facing one? Just trying to get the situation clear in my mind. :-)

  • 10 years ago
    Yes, comtessedelacouche, that's exactly what I want. 6ft tall. Width wise- I would say vigorous to cover as much as possible. Dry heat tolerant. And heat is brutal (sunset zone 13). Sun: east side gets a lot of morning sun for sure. Nothing will be on its way. But north side. It's not dark there at all. But our neighbor has a huge tree. When we moved in this house - it was huge and gave us a lot of shade from sun. My Fiji Rose was the happiest in the world. But this year they trimmed it badly. And shade is gone for a while. This side gets a little bit of morning sun though anyway and a little bit of late evening dun too. For that spot I'm tempting to plant Zephirine D. We don't have black spot problem here in Phoenix as I was told. But have PM. But I'm ready to give it a try for that magnificent spring flush that everybody is talking about)
  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I grew ZD about 15 years ago. It is still alive and well, in a location that only receives about 4.5 hours of sun. When I purchased it, my assumption was that it was not especially heat tolerant... (dry, hot summer heat tolerant) and thus the placement.

    Natasha (Chandler AZ 9b) W thanked Lynn-in-TX-Z8b- Austin Area/Hill Country
  • 10 years ago

    That were exactly my thoughts, Desertgarden) that ok. If the Rose is not dry heat tolerant it might feel good with more shade than in any other regions... Since our climates are more alike with you I think I will give it a shot then :)

  • 10 years ago

    The only rose I can think of that is very fragrant that would fit a 6 foot tall wall is Spray Cecille Brunner, a Polyantha-Tea that was introduced in 1881 and sported to the Spray form in the 1920's. It is an altogether attractive plant, covered with sprays of dainty pink roses they are not large roses, but there are large numbers of them, and the scent carries to me as I walk past. Plus the leaves are abundant and attractive. . In addition it has good rebloom and is easy to care for. see photos on helpmefind.com/roses on "search" N.B. the climbing forms of Cecille Brunner do not rebloom as much, and are house eaters.

    I wonder if a red rose wouldn't crisp with the heat.

    6 feet is not a lot of height for a regular climber and something like Lamarque or Mermaid would cover six feet while you turned your head the other way.

    Lux

    Natasha (Chandler AZ 9b) W thanked luxrosa
  • 10 years ago

    Allister Stella Gray grows like crazy here but I am always cautious about planting a rose right next to a concrete wall due to reflected heat.

    Natasha (Chandler AZ 9b) W thanked debbym, Tempe, AZ Zone 9
  • 10 years ago

    Another one you might consider is Golden Showers. It is bright yellow. Rampant grower.

    Natasha (Chandler AZ 9b) W thanked debbym, Tempe, AZ Zone 9
  • 10 years ago

    Thank you, guys! This time I ordered Don Juan and Zephirine D. We will see how they like those places. I really didn't want to add more yellow to my garden as we have a lot of yellow flowering trees and bushes on the streets around here... Want to make my back yard with more of colder colors...

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