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Off topic and over the top: Never-ending Pergola Project

10 years ago
last modified: 10 years ago

I'm posting this basically for laughs. The whole experience (not over yet) has the same atmosphere as that American TV show called "The Shield". You just know something bad is going to happen lol

Remember this simple project that started out with wanting to screen a pergola?

It was supposed to just be for sitting outside away from blood suckers. Then I figured it's perfect for storing my winter growers since it will be slightly shaded. I originally just put screen on top but that brought the problem of leaves in autumn, snow in winter and the cat acquiring the habit of sleeping on top.

After months of denial, I have come to accept that it will need a roof after all. So here we are.

Research alone took weeks. I've zero experience building outdoor structures meant to survive years in Northeastern winter. Well, I have zero experience building outdoor structures, period.

I fear the embarrassment of collapse from snow, the whole thing flying off during a Nor'easter and just general failure from something I did not anticipate.

He loves it though. And weighed the whole screen off the frame as a result. When the roof is finished, he wont have access to that area.

Thanks for looking in. To be continued. Crossing my fingers!

Pagan

Comments (42)

  • 10 years ago

    Good for you Pagan!

    The things we do for our babies he :-)

    User thanked ConnyNL (The Netherlands, 8b)
  • 10 years ago

    I know, right!

    What we all really want is something like this:

    Sigh.

  • 10 years ago

    Yeah, we all want one one of those, but sadly in reality, we know we won't be getting one anytime soon :-/ Take it that it's an advert for the greenhouse company rather than one you've seen in person? It's fantastic. I need to do some maintainence on my g/h before winter sets in. It was built hastily several years ago when our previous two were trashed but out of a load of softwood beams my d/h bought for £5. The wood also fenced off the gardens of two of our children and made lots of other items including two pergolas. All the glass was salvaged from the smashed up g/h's, it being toughened glass, so the new g/h was 'built around' the size glass we had. Am awaiting a quote for a replacement UPVC one, but guess it will be out of my league now :-/ Trouble is I can't function without a g/h.

    Gill

  • 10 years ago

    Yes, we do all want one of those. Dreaming is a wonderful thing. LOL All kidding aside, I am sure yours will be enjoys for many years. Looking forward to pictures of the finished product.

  • 10 years ago

    That room is so gorgeous. Can you imagine having something like this.

    Yours will just be of a smaller scale, Pagan.

    Rick

  • 10 years ago

    That looks just like the one my other half has been promising to build for me for the past 15 years...

  • 10 years ago

    Pagen, With a little paint it will look just like the one in the picture :)

  • 10 years ago

    Pagan, I dream to have 1/2 of what you are building....

    Looking very good for first time builder.

    Marie

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks, everyone, I mean it. I was feeling a little out of my depth which would normally not bother me except this one involves something that can collapse on people's heads lol

    Gill, I want a glimpse of your greenhouse! Fortunately, I do not have any plant that needs one. I just needed a protected semi-shaded area for my other succulents. With the screen, the temperature in there is about 2 degrees lower than the deck where it often hits 37C (oh okay...37 times 9 over 5 plus 32...98 point something F). Up there, in full sun, my adeniums are very happy.
    Oh just FYI, I did not build the pergola, it came with the house. I only put screens and the door and now I'm doing the roof. P

  • 10 years ago

    So I'm nearly done with the roof frame thingie. Screws for the plastic roof panels turned out to be so rare I had to order them online. I have removed the screen on top but I needed the shade cloth to be up so I just sort of screwed it on very loosely while I work on the roof above it.

    Someone thought it was his hammock.

  • 10 years ago

    Looks like the cat is comfortable. Maybe you could build him a hammock!! He would appreciate it.

  • 10 years ago

    That's actually in the plan, Sandy. lol

  • 10 years ago
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    Awesome, your tiny project has morphed. We call that scope creep in the software industry. Looking great. Love the cat nap photos. Do continue to post them. Oh and I don't just want greenhouse. I want a solarium too!

  • 10 years ago

    Pagan, here's the pics of the greenhouse, as you can see its not on the scale of the Kew Garden like one you posted.....sigh...but for under a tenner all in! It's bolted to the side of the garage block to prevent it from being blown down again. The other g/h was aluminium and was on the concrete base of both the blue pergola and the gravel area which was my chipmunk house base in a previous life. I need to paint the smaller pergola...at some point in time.

    Gill


  • 10 years ago

    That looks nice Gill. I just love your view.

  • 10 years ago

    Such a nice build Pagan. You should not doubt yourself, it looks great!

    Gill, is that a Mexican Palm I see there by the greenhouse corner?

    I was surprised to see that, but knowing that you also grow adenium, I shouldn't be!

    In a perfect environment, they grow 4+ feet per year!

  • 10 years ago
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    Thank you SCoast, sorry I have forgotten your real name!

    Hello Jerry, I have thirteen palms altogether! Yes, you are correct that one is indeed a Washingtonia robusta,/ Mexican fan Palm....one of two I've grown from seed, I do know how big they 'can' grow, lol. The other one in the foreground is a Phoenix canariensis also grown from seed I collected. My other palms are chamaerops and trachycarpus varieties I've grown on from tiny seedlngs I've bought off eBay, swapped or been given. :-) They all have to hop back into the g/h for winter along with several other pots so you see why I need it! The Mexican fan palms are rising up out of their pots, they will have to last this year and maybe I'll get bigger ones in 2017 :-0 they look like getting to the six leaf stage by the end of this current season, so may loose a couple during the coming winter, but this has been their best year so far.

    Gill

  • 10 years ago
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    Gill, have you ever tried Lady Palms (Rhapis Excelsa)? they don't need full sun just bright light and are cold tolerant up to 30 degrees.

    I grew this one from a piece of another plant.

    This is the piece when i first put it in a pot.

    The pot is larger in the first photo.

    Sandy

    Sorry Pagen if I'm interrupting your thread..

  • 10 years ago
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    Thanks, Jerry. It's actually the posts I am doubting---I am building on someone else's construction (pergola came with the house). I've been making furniture for a while now but I have no experience with actual structures. I probably should have started with a fence or something but I didn't need one.

    Gill, your greenhouse is perfect though---just the right size, not too hard to heat just enough for me to keep my pachys and euphorbias in the sun in winter. So do you have orchids? I love the flowers, I hate the chore so I only have one.

    Oh! I downloaded a click counter app and discovered I have 26 adeniums (excluding 10 seedlings that are not really mine) and 89 other kinds of succulents. Don't be alarmed though, most are small, slow-growing succulents and a lot are still seedlings. That doesn't compare to people who have been at it longer. But considering how picky I am, that is a lot! The hardest part is finding homes for redundant ones--I like to keep only one of each kind.

    Pagan

    PS Sandy, interrupt at your pleasure! This is an OT thread, remember. that's basically a free-for-all!

  • 10 years ago

    Sandy, I'm not familiar with that type. Very few palms are available here for obvious reasons though the DIY stores and garden centres do sell more these days. Twenty years ago they were a rare sight even as potted specimens but now hardy palms are seen growing outdoors more and more, especially in the south. I'm in Middle England btw. Never seen a lady Palm in the UK as far as I'm aware.

    Gill

  • 10 years ago

    Gill, That's too bad. I wish I could send you one. I have more than I know what to do with.

  • 10 years ago
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    Aaaalmost done. Just need some cosmetic finishing touches to make it look more...well, finished.

    Yes, that's a cat door lol

    Pagan

  • 10 years ago

    Looking great there Pagan, I'm sure you and your plants will benefit from it :-) Cat door, yes! We also put one into our g/h door along with a comfy cat bed :-)

    Gill

    User thanked greenclaws UK, Zone 8a
  • 10 years ago

    Wow, you've done a fantastic job Pagan, you can be very proud of yourself!

    User thanked ConnyNL (The Netherlands, 8b)
  • 10 years ago

    That remains to be seen, Conny. If we get four feet of snow, I'm not entirely sure how the structure will hold up. I have pitched the roof as conservatively as I can get away with for this zone....crossing all the paws!

    P

  • 10 years ago

    Make sure the cat has a snow shovel inside so he can dig himself out should he get caught...

    User thanked ConnyNL (The Netherlands, 8b)
  • 10 years ago
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    That looks nice Pagen. Excellent job. Are you going to put a hammock in there for the cat..

    User thanked spacecoast_fl_zone_9
  • 10 years ago

    I think it's a nice thread and Pagan! You did a fantastic job! It looks so nice! You could even clear seal that wood and leave it two toned as it is - it looks very good. Love the kitty.

    User thanked Hyn Patty, Western NC Mountains (USA)
  • 10 years ago

    I thought about that, Hyn. I just can't make up my mind yet and I am kind of beating the clock here--there is a pond on this property that has to be rebuilt before winter. It appears it was only being held up by the thick growth of English ivy and, surprise, poison ivy. I've been procrastinating that for two years now.

    Here's the kitty!

    The most in-the-way cat ever.

    Pagan

  • 10 years ago

    Ouch about the pond! I miss my kitty.

    User thanked Hyn Patty, Western NC Mountains (USA)
  • 10 years ago
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    They just want to be part of what you're doing. Now if only they could be taught how to do the plant watering etc, that would make my life a lot easier :-)

    User thanked ConnyNL (The Netherlands, 8b)
  • 10 years ago
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    Yeah but sometimes he does this.


    There goes the next two hours or whenever he's done napping. Or maybe he's asking to be cut.

  • 10 years ago

    Terrific job on constructing the Haworthia house. I can't believe how complex it has become since the beginning. Looks great Pagan. Love the cat photos and the fact that he can just lay down and nap anywhere.

    Tracy

    User thanked addicted2plants Southern IL USA
  • 10 years ago

    You're too kind Pagan. If one of our cats nestles down in an inconvenient spot I take him or her down.

    User thanked ConnyNL (The Netherlands, 8b)
  • 9 years ago

    my roof is holding up so far. More white stuff and I'm going to be nervous!

    Pagan

  • 9 years ago

    Beautiful stuff, Eh. Just need to go out and make Snow Angel's :)

    Rick

    User thanked rcharles_gw (Canada)
  • 9 years ago

    I could live there. ;-) Nice. And you have snow!

    User thanked Martin (retired viking from Denmark)
  • 9 years ago

    Pagan, how high is the roof? Is there no way for you to trudge out there and attempt to remove some of the snow to protect all of your hard work?

    Tyler

    User thanked SoCal Stewart (San Diego, Ca Zone 10A/10B)
  • 9 years ago

    Oh Rick, I would take ten feet of billowing snow over freezing rain anytime. We got no more than 10 inches though---is it just us or is this winter kind of warm?

    It's less than 10 feet from the ground, Tyler but I'm half that tall lol And I already disassembled the ladder I made to build the roof. I meant to put an additional support post inside but we've been getting nothing but rain so I didn't bother.

    Alrighty, Martin. if you ever need a place to stay in the northeastern coast of the New World, the pergola is yours! You'll be amongst my haworthias and other plants besides. A mantis hatched in there last summer, maybe there will be another.

    Pagan


  • 9 years ago
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    Pagan, thanks for the offer. ;-) I have never seen a mantis IRL before! 8-)

    10 inches of snow? Wow. The past years we have only had a "sprinkle" of snow around here. Most of the time it is just bleak weather, cloudy, windy and rainy. It is so depressing. It it supposed to snow when it is winter! >:-(

    On the other hand, the summers are getting warmer and more humid... I dislike it. As a true Norseman, I like harsh cold winters with blizzards and cool summers. ;-) I bet in 50 years the climate in Denmark will be more like Spain's.

  • 9 years ago

    Very nice outcome!