True Rick, remarkable plants. Slow growers? What are there size and how would they do in my climate after the three years?

These are now in 6 1/2" pots. Could have gone up to 8", but I do not like to pot up as they grow into their existing pot. They had full root system and held together when I moved into these new pots.

I would think that they would do remarkably well in your climate and atleast they would have a longer growing period. They do have a genetic dormancy where they just coast.

It seems to be hard to find seeds for them.

Rick