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No more dishwashers with heated dry???

10 years ago

I'm trying to find a new dishwasher and just found out that they don't seem to have heated dry anymore. The only way I found out was reading all the reviews complaining about the mildew smell coming from their dishwasher if they don't either wipe it down after a wash or leave the door open slightly. Others simply complained about dishes not being dry.


Does anyone know of a dishwasher available today that still has heated dry??


Thanks!

Comments (34)

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I just looked it up on the Home Depot website and got 66 results. It's under "dishwasher features."

  • 10 years ago

    Kitchenaid

  • 10 years ago

    My KitchenAid has heated dry, one of the main reasons I chose it, works great!

  • 10 years ago

    My DW doesn't have heated dry and never gets wiped out or cleaned or smells bad.

  • 10 years ago

    I love my Bosch without heated dry. Run it in the night, everything is dry in the morning. No bad smell, and best of all no accidentally melted plastic stuff (even in the bottom shelf).

  • 10 years ago

    Asko still makes a turbo dry - I've had our existing for 19 years and it's still going strong. Asko will be in new house too.

  • 10 years ago

    I dislike the "super hot water" dry on my Bosch. Glasses and ceramic plates come out dry but plastic does not and there's always standing water in the top of mugs and things. We generally run a load after dinner and then leave it standing open overnight and it's completely dry in the morning.

    It is nice to be able to put plastic in the bottom rack, though.

    I've never had an issue with mildew, but then we run 2-4 loads a day so it's never idle for long!

  • 10 years ago

    I'm pretty happy with the Bosch drying process though it does make for a long cycle. My plastics are even dry, usually just the bottom recessed part of cups may have water in it because I don't put them at an angle. Recessed bottoms of bowls dry well as I can usually load them so water runs off the bottom.

    For me the benefit of putting plastic anywhere outweighs whatever the disadvantages may be. I have no smell in my dishwasher unless I put smelly things in it without rinsing - such as a platter that had cold shrimp on it. I don't wipe mine out though I do sometimes leave it open a bit after it's been emptied. It does close tight and I don't like the idea of it sitting there damp inside. Kind of like my front load washing machine.

    I had a Miele non-heated dry dishwasher prior to this so have been living with this for about 12 years. The Bosch dries much better than my Miele did.

  • 10 years ago

    I have a Bosch that is SS inside. No heated dry but everything is dry when I open it - I usually run it at night when I go to bed. Only recessed bottoms of plastics are still wet. The SS keeps the heat in from the hot water rinse and helps with the drying process.

  • 10 years ago

    My LG did not have a heating element and it did a great job. Never had an issue with odor due to that. The mildew smell people complain about is generally due to water sitting in the bottom of the dishwasher.

    I moved and the Jenn Aire we purchased has a heating element. It does a bit better job drying everything. However when the heating element is not used you have much more flexibility on where to place things.

    From my experiences the heating element would be pretty low on my list. I would put interior lighting above it.

  • 10 years ago

    I have optional heat, stainless tub and interior lighting. By far and away the best part is the heating. I don't want a dishwasher. I want a dish washer and dryer.


  • 10 years ago

    Like most of the others, I'd much rather let my dishes dry "naturally" and have the flexibility of putting plastics on the bottom rack. But, it looks like there may be some options for you (albeit not many).

  • 10 years ago

    Hate the "never ever actually dry" feature of our Bosch. I always have a towel set out with wet items on it drying (or have to dry items with a towel) before putting them away. HATE OUR BOSCH! But it never smells inside.

  • 10 years ago

    My Bosch and Thermador dry dishes as well as any machine I've ever had -- leaving only a little bit on plastic rims and some concave bottoms that are not angled. And I agree about loving not having to worry about where you place things or something small falling off the top rack and melting.

  • 10 years ago

    The thing about condensation drying is that it requires a certain amount of thermal mass in your dishes. That's crockery, pots and flatware, mostly. If your dishes have plenty of those things, it'll work fine. My own dishes are mostly small, thin porcelain, rarely pots, or else thin sheet pans, because my enamel doesn't like the DW, and my fancy Italian flatware has acrylic handles. I have lots of glass and plastics, but they don't hold the necessary heat. You also have to have rinse aid. It's okay if it's in the powder, but liquid rinse aid leaves a residue (I have neutral water--not soft or hard). It makes my glasses taste like soap (it's a surfactant like soap that breaks the surface tension of water to keep it from making drops). If I had to have condensation dry only, I'd have to have a big metal or stoneware slug to leave in it to get the dishes dry. I'd rather have heated dry. I like it.

    I'm not saying y'all are wrong to like your condensation drying dishwashers. Just saying it's not a one size fits all kind of thing.

  • 10 years ago

    I think you just solved a mystery for me!

    I've found that when silicone, like muffin liners, through the dishwasher it comes out tasting like soap. I'd assumed it was dish soap but I bet it's the rinse aid.

  • 10 years ago

    I have a Kenmore Elite I bought last November. It's essentially a KitchenAid. I have options for no heat dry, Smart Dry (30-50 minutes depending upon cycle) and Smart Dry Plus 1:26 dry length. But because of dumb en3ergy standards, if I select high temp wash then I can only get heated dry with Smart Dry Plus and it does no heat dry regardless of "setting" when I select sani-rinse.

  • 10 years ago

    I have an inexpensive Whirlpool that has heated dry. It has a plastic tub. It came with our new house appliance package that we didn't upgrade and it cleans the dishes very well but plastics are still wet on top and any dishes on the top with recessed bottoms that aren't put at the perfect angle still have water pooling in them (like ceramic coffee mugs). So... even heated dry isn't perfect. We bought an LG dishwasher for our last house without heated dry and it worked the same...dried the dishes exactly the same way though I wouldn't recommend LG for a dishwasher.

  • 10 years ago

    I believe that my old Maytag has selection for heated dry, but I haven't used the heated setting for years. I have a set of glasses with a dimpled bottom where water collects unless unusually tilted. Water remains in those glasses and some plastic, but I just shake water off into the washer and put the glasses on the shelves. Our air conditioner probably helps draw any remaining water off the glasses. I never notice a wet glass an hour later. I believe there is always a little water remaining in the bottom of the washer. I think the manual said it is supposed to be there to protect the seal. In any case, there is never a musty smell from the dishwasher. It gets used almost every day. However, we just returned from a week trip and there was no residual musty smell developed over that time.

  • 10 years ago

    Lisa G, you're right. Water will pool where it can't escape, and I don't know of any machine that can fix that. If you have a bunch of ceramic coffee mugs in the DW that'll go a long way toward making condensation drying work.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    I bought my Asko D5436XLS Which I really like. It has a 'Turbo Dry' which is explained in the link below. I washed two brand new almost mirror finish mixing bowls yesterday, and when I went to empty the dw the bowls were absolutely spotless. No water spots on anything, and even plastic is dry.

    http://www.askona.com/dishwashers/why-asko-dishwashers/turbo-drying

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks iowac, I will look at Asko. I was just looking at Nebraska Furniture Mart but they don't carry Asko.

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Looks like Consumer Reports has added "drying" to it's review criteria. Must be a problem for a lot of people.

    http://www.consumerreports.org/dishwashers/if-you-want-drier-dishes-use-dishwasher-rinse-aid/

  • 10 years ago
    last modified: 10 years ago

    Kiko that's funny because I bought mine from NFM. It was a floor model and I got it for $400 because of a small dent on the front.

    ETA: I go to the NFM in Kansas City.

  • 8 years ago

    Absolutely sucks not having my new LG dishwasher having a dryer and who would have :thunk” to ask, not me, every dishwasher I had bought in the past had one. All my dishes are sopping wet if they stay in there for days! My eye it’s for safety reasons the manufacturers say, it is more government regulations the appliance people did not want to follow so they take important parts out and charge you 2x the amount. Look for the companies that still put them in!!! So do we need to ask when we buy a new car if an engine is included!!!

  • 5 years ago

    Frigidaire I think does it. Ours has it and it’s aFrigidaire. I know it’s old but I’m hesitant to change it because I don’t want to lose the heated drying feature

  • 5 years ago

    Our brand new KitchenAid dishwasher (the one with the 3rd "Flex" rack) has heated dry.

  • 5 years ago

    Heated-dry always felt like a cop out to me. A well-designed dishwasher can dry dishes just fine without having to resort to a heated dry cycle. It might require having a mechanism to open the door or having a fan and properly implemented air flow patterns. But it absolutely is doable. Most European brands have been doing so for decades now.


    The benefits aren't just in lower energy consumption, but it also has the very tangible advantage of never risking the life of heat sensitive dishes (e.g. anything made from plastic). In our Miele dishwasher, I can set plastic parts on any of the three shelves and they never are any worse wear. And while there sometimes is a little water that pools in plastic parts, dishes are generally very dry. All I have to do is pour out any of this pooled water (if there is any at all). That's a trade-off I am happy to make.

  • 5 years ago

    Heated dry nowadays typically runs at lower temperatures than in the past, with the element being of lower wattage and/or cycling on/off instead of staying on continuously for the duration of the dry period. Rinse aid is part of the equation.

  • 5 years ago

    I couldn’t unless we pay a fortune and I’m not ready to drop over a thousand dollars for a dishwasher that does not dry my dishes . It’s ridiculous.

  • 5 years ago

    My new Bosch dishwasher has CrystalDry. I'm very impressed with the drying results, reminds me of days of old when dishes were bone dry and actually quite warm right after the cycle. The dishes were almost too hot to touch right after the cycle ended. There's an Extra Dry setting that I'm going to select and see what the difference is.

  • 5 years ago

    @Pearl Masciangioli, lower-end models on the U.S. market are more likely to have heated dry vs. the no-heat condensor dry methods on higher-end brands and models. GE and Frigidaire have several that are much less than $1,000. Are you located elsewhere?

  • 5 years ago

    I ran a load last night with Extra Dry option selected on top of CrystalDry. All the indentions on my mugs were bone dry, even the ones that are most prevalent of retaining a pool on top. The disposable plastics still had accumulation in the grooves around the outside of the item. Even my old "butter dishes" were totally dry. Pretty much reminded of when KitchenAids in the 1970s baked everything dry.