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Lighting fixtures for Kitchen

9 years ago

Thought I would turn to this very helpful community, as I am driving myself (and my husband) crazy with my indecisiveness!. I have chosen a kitchen light that I am not sure works. And I still need a light for over the sink.

What makes it hard is that my first floor is pretty open, and only 900 square feet or so. I have 6 lighting fixtures on the first floor, but only have 4 so far. It's been incredibly hard trying to find pieces that are stunning, unique, and compatible.

Can you help me decide if the current chrome light looks right? Or should I move it to over the sink and get another chandelier for the center? Maybe something that's wide and sputnik like? If you think another light, what kind would work?

The over the sink light should be direct task lighting, and the center one would just be ambient, as I have cans in all other areas of the kitchen.

I've got 2 kitchen/dining area pictures attached, plus one of the hallway leading to the kitchen, which is still missing an entry light!. As you see, you get 2 or more lights in a line of sight.

Thank you in advance!

Ariana




Comments (21)

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    The fixture in photo 2 looks like it's meant to be a pendant. If you wanted it to act as a small chandelier, then you need to drop it down from the ceiling to a height about 7' above the floor, or higher if you have very tall children or friends.

    Your fixture over the dining table should be hung so that the bottom of it is 30 to 36" above the table. Can your electrician move the connection so that you don't need to swag it to the center of the table?

    A recessed light would work well over the sink and would not compete with the other fixtures.

    aia3 thanked Carolyn Albert-Kincl, ASID
  • 9 years ago

    Thanks Carolyn! That chrome fixture came with a chain, but even with minimal links my 6ft husband could very well walk into it. I misspoke when I said I was considering a bigger chandelier, I meant a wide semi-flush mount.

    As for the fixture over the dining table it's exactly 36 inches above the table. Would it look better a bit lower? Electrician could not move the connection easily and inexpensively. I don't mind the swag.

    As for the sink fixture, I'll think about recessed, if I can't find a simple pendant that works. It's definitely food for thought!

  • PRO
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Since you can't use the pendant with its chain I suggest you remove it. It definitely does not work where it is. You could replace it with a recessed light, or if there is space, a ceiling fan.

  • 9 years ago

    Very much like the light over your table. I do like the nearer (hall/entry?) more symmetrical rectangular light in the third pic.

    Over the kitchen, getting the light you need is more important than merging décor. For that reason, consider creating a wood cornice between the overhead cabinets over the sink and just add a bright hidden light rather than having two different lights "overhead" lights in close proximity compete with each other (light in 2nd pic competing w/light over sink).

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/09/36/94/0936942209610e92778486c5c6082982.jpg

    Not that fond of the center light in the kitchen (2nd pic) would actually consider a small modern ceiling fan with light for there.

    Another option for over the sink that, because it is an entirely different kind of light, would not "compete" with the other (2nd pic) overhead light in the kitchen is a track light.

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cIJDbXApiig/UfWKPCt04kI/AAAAAAAACRA/PSr6tuZGssg/s1600/kitchen+001.jpg

    http://internetsale.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/over-sink-kitchen-lighting-impressive-with-kitchen-over-sink-lighting-kitchen-decoration-ideas-2016.jpg

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6b/34/62/6b3462895a7a4b9412bb422c878f4788.jpg

    aia3 thanked suezbell
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    It is dangerous and usually not permitted by code to have a pendant light over the sink because of possible electrocution. So a recessed light or a track light would work best there. A monopoint is another possibility.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    This is a monopoint.

    LED Vector Monopoint Display Light, Bronze · More Info

    aia3 thanked Carolyn Albert-Kincl, ASID
  • PRO
    9 years ago
    Here are some lighting ideas.
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    I think the dining room light is very good, (lower a little), but to make things work together, play off that one, with others that are bronze and open look. Like these

    Three Light Old World Open Frame Foyer Hall Fixture · More Info
    Possible entry or hallway. Open, similar shape.

    aia3 thanked Flo Mangan
  • PRO
    9 years ago


    Kichler Larkin Two Light Olde Bronze Open Frame Foyer Hall Fixture · More Info
    Entry or hall.

    aia3 thanked Flo Mangan
  • 9 years ago
    I want to change a house with a hip roof to one with a Gable roof
  • PRO
    9 years ago


    Vaxcel Como 6-Light Swing Track Bar, Satin Nickel · More Info
    With tall people in kitchen, you might consider a new track lighting approach. Gives loads of light and you can get light pointed where you want it. Also doesn't hang down to hitting heads! The brushed nickel would blend with your hardware in kitchen. You could also do bronze in there, but with the white cabinets I think the tones to match appliances, hardware, etc. would work well.

    aia3 thanked Flo Mangan
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    There is absolutely NOTHING in the National Electrical Code or the International Residential Code that restricts the use of a pendant over a sink.

    FYI, the locations that have restrictions for pendants, such as over a shower or tub, also prohibit monopionts and track lighting.

    NEC


    410.10


    (D) Bathtub and Shower Areas.


    No parts of cord-connected luminaires, chain-, cable-, or cord-suspended luminaires, lighting track, pendants, or ceiling-suspended (paddle) fans shall be located within a zone measured 900 mm (3 ft) horizontally and 2.5 m (8 ft) vertically from the top of the bathtub rim or shower stall threshold. This zone is all encompassing and includes the space directly over the tub or shower stall. Luminaires locate within the actual outside dimension of the bathtub or shower to a height of 2.5 m (8 ft) vertically from the top of the bathtub rim or shower threshold shall be marked for damp locations, or marked for wet locations where subject to shower spray.

  • PRO
    9 years ago
    Thanks Fred. I was pretty sure of that too, and hoping you would chime in. I've done it many times.
  • 9 years ago
    Consider that pre rinsing dishes is drippy business and you don't want that on hardwoods.
  • PRO
    9 years ago
    With new finishes, as long as obvious drips are wiped off with paper toweling no problem. I have had them for past 15 years in 3 homes. Not a problem. A water flood of some kind messes up any floor. It looks great and integrates your spaces nicely. With average care should be good a long time, probably til your sick of them! lol
  • 9 years ago

    I like the chandelier over the dining table very much. I'd consider just putting cans over the sink and in the middle of the kitchen and a couple in the hall. You're right there are just too many hanging down everywhere in a small space no matter what style you get.

    aia3 thanked suzyq53
  • 9 years ago

    Whats happening with these random comments? Hip roof? Hardwood?

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    My apology for giving the wrong info on pendants over sinks. Thank you, Fred S, for clarifying the matter.

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks all! All great advice. With your help, I have decided the center kitchen light doesn't work. I still do want something pretty and eye catching, especially when I entertain guests in the dining area. For that reason, I don't think fans or track lighting will work. I'm thinking a flush mount or semi that's delicate, with small lights that branch out, and throws shadows.

    I will think about a can light for over the sink, so as not to compete with the other lights. And thanks, Flo Mangan, for the suggestions on entry light. I completely agree!

    And shiningautumn8, the dining light is the Middletown chandelier by Minka Lavery. I've seen it with small round bulbs too, which looks great! I've seen hundreds of lights, and it's the first one that I just had to have.

  • 9 years ago

    Even if it is not against Code to have a light dangling down above the sink, why would anyone want to have that glare in their eyes while working at the sink?