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Sliding shower door or pivot? Pros and Cons

9 years ago

Our bathroom is almost done and we need to decide on a shower door. We've had a sliding door forever but want to know the pros and cons for sliders versus a pivot door. In either scenario, we cannot enter by the sink side since there wouldn't be enough space.


Before photo to show sink location.

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  • 9 years ago
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    Oh granny that is not my bath, I ended up having enough space ,four ft, in front of our shower so I did end up using hinged but in my orginal design I did not have a lot of floor in front of the shower and we tried out the sliding they had both the type with a fix panel or ones with two sliding doors. The were really a lot nicer than I expected and so easy to use!

    They carry some through lowes or homedepot but they where thinner the ones I liked bast were at a plumbing showroom in ct, Whites. But here is a link to some at Lowes. They are a great solution to save space.

    http://m.lowes.com/pd/DreamLine-Charisma-56-in-to-60-in-W-x-76-in-H-Brushed-Nickel-Sliding-Shower-Door/999919580

  • 9 years ago

    Checked with a few custom shower door vendors and none can make the frameless look double sliders we want with no towel bars... so Levity it is.

  • 9 years ago
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    "none can make" or none will take the time to research as they are definitely available. Albeit more money as they will be custom since they will not have towel bar holes but they are definitely available, just not as a "kit" from their regular sources. I will tell you the local Kohler dealer to the glass shop I worked in previously used to send people to us for shower doors (including sliding)..............................

  • 9 years ago

    We just went through this situation. We ended up doing the bypass doors and we saved $600 by doing so. We used Ryan's All Glass in Cinti OH for our job. Our shower was a little smaller than yours, and my husband helped me to see that bypass were the way to go. So glad that we went with bypass and not hinged...leak, obstacles, etc. Don't understand why you wouldn't want towel bar. I love having it on ours. You don't have to have a towel on it. It doesn't distract from the clean look for me. I would never use a Kohler for the doors. I have not heard anything good about that brand. I would keep calling glass cos until I found one to make the door I liked. Don't give up, keep looking. It's worth the extra effort to not have the Kohler, which you will regret later because of all of the defects and frustration that you will have to deal with down the road.

  • 9 years ago

    millworkman K Sissy The vendor I spoke with yesterday said, engineering wise, it cannot be made. The guy I spoke with on Tuesday also said he could not make it without the framed header, that we do not want. I checked with Dreamline as well and they could only make fully framed double sliders.

    I created a mockup with finger pulls (they would be chrome not gold/brass) and no towel bars and the vendors all have said they cannot make it....which is strange since Kohler is mass marketing Levity which is very similar to what we want.

  • 9 years ago

    Our doors have a track. We have had them about a mon now, and the track has not gotten much "gunk" in it at all. The track has a little pitch to it so that water drains out of it into the shower. It is not at all like our old doors that we got off the shelf at Lowe's or HD. I thought the rack would bother me, but it doesn't at all because it has stayed clean. Go to some glass shops, and look at the different doors. I think that you might chg your mind when you see the improvements that are in the new doors. You owe that to yourself, so that you can make the best decision. Here's a picture of our shower.

  • 9 years ago

    The issue now that I am reading more is you want both doors to be able to slide. Is that correct?

  • 9 years ago
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    K Sissy We've been to custom shops and the only thing close to what we want is the Serenity system, but it has only 1 sliding door. http://www.crystalglassny.com/Gallery/Shower-Doors/ID/353/Image-34

    millworkman Correct, that seems to be the problem to have double sliders without the frame. Basically, we want the Serenity with double sliders and finger pulls.

  • 9 years ago

    I understand now. Let me look into a couple things, give me a little bit.

  • 9 years ago

    Katrina,

    I have no personal experience with the company that I posted below. Take a look at the Cottage Style Sliding doors. I think this may meet your needs.

    Double Sliding Shower Door

    Good luck!

  • 9 years ago

    Another option from Dulles Glass Company: Linear Sliding Shower Door

  • 9 years ago
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    homepro01 Thanks. Yes, we looked at these last week but don't like the large headers. https://www.framelessshowerdoors.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/1828.jpg

    millworkman If you can find a vendor who can make it, that would be great! Everyone I've called said they can't do it.

  • 9 years ago

    The large header would be the problem. The only other option I can suggest is barn door hardware that is made for sliding unit. They are expensive but may work. You may want to give someone like Betterbuilding products a call and see what they can recommend.

  • 9 years ago
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    homepro01 Thanks! Calling them now.

    ETA: They can't alter the Cottage door like we want. A Barn door type slider system sounds like it will work.

  • 9 years ago

    Keep us posted Katrina!

  • 9 years ago

    I used the C.R. Laurence Deluxe Serenity Series in one of our baths (see pages 4-5 in link)
    http://www.crlaurence.com/adv/catalog_library/catalogs/fs14/index.html

    No towel bars. The ideal would have been to plan ahead and switch your water supply. I would have preferred a pivot door in the bathroom we did, but it is a jack-n-jill with a separate shower and toilet that did not have enough space for the door to comfortably swing out. I used pivot doors in the other bathrooms.


  • 9 years ago

    Serenity doesn't have double sliders. Switching the water supply wasn't an option. We're in a NYC apartment building with lots of rules.

  • 9 years ago

    Katrina,

    If you do the unit you want with a stationary piece of glass, can they cut an opening into the glass where the valve is so that you can open the little door, turn on the valve and then close it? It does not need to seal particularly well. Not sure if it is possible but maybe the glass shop can do it?

  • 9 years ago

    I know you don't love the large header but just a thought if you can't find what you want. I had a large header on my slider in my condo. At first I hated it. Within a few weeks I didn't even notice it. We tend to stress over every detail when building or renovating and then when we're done, we don't ever really see it anymore.

    To me a slider would be so much more important for turning on/off the shower valves and getting the temperature right.

  • 9 years ago
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    Everything I am seeing is it is not an available system with out going doubling up the overhead track and buying a second set of the hardware.

  • 9 years ago
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    homepro01 That is an interesting idea. I spoke with better building and explained my idea about what I want, plus sent a mock up. However, the response I got was underwhelming.

    "In looking at your mock-up, I am a little confused. If there is a sink adjacent to the shower stall, you don't really need two operable doors, right? If you opened the door on the faucet side, you would walk right into the sink. It looks like you want one fixed panel of glass on the sink side, and then an operable door on the other side."

    Below is the mock up that I sent demonstrating double sliders with finger pulls on a barn door type track.

    I will try again and ask about the little door idea.

  • 9 years ago

    roarah I'm looking at buying shower enclosure from Whites, CT too. I am a bit concerned about the reviews of the vendor they would source from - Century Bathworks. What are your thoughts? /Anyone else? The price makes them attractive although we haven't visited their showroom.

  • 9 years ago

    Good solid company and a good product. I have sold them in the past.

  • 9 years ago

    Look for a store location in the US. The company is Fleurco. Have 2 baths with their shower doors. Lots to choose from there. One of my bathrooms... I get in the shower and aim the hand held shower head at the floor drain 'til it heats up then switch it to the overhead shower! Problem solved for me! Here is a link... Good quality.






    http://www.fleurco.com/bathroom/shower-doors.aspx

  • 9 years ago

    Good find anrol!

    Katrina,

    It looks like the 3 bypass doors may be option for you. The two bypass doors have towel holders built into them.

    Good luck!

  • 9 years ago

    homepro01 The 3 by pass doors, like our foyer closet doors (Johnson hardware) would be perfect if they were frameless.

  • 9 years ago

    Try this one

  • 9 years ago

    We did have a choice of hardware on our glass doors and the option of ordering with or without a towel bar. I did not want a towel bar.

  • 9 years ago

    homepro01 I never heard back from the vendor about cutting a small door into the shower. He never responded at all in fact after I acknowledged that I do not need two operable doors but want them.

  • 9 years ago

    millworkman There does not seem to be an option for no towel bars.

  • 9 years ago
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    Did you ask them? There is no reason they cannot special order the glass without holes for the towel bar. If not ask about just ordering the top track and hanging hardware and get a local glass shop to order glass doors for you. it obviously will cost you more money than the off the shelf door but you will get what you want.

  • 9 years ago
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    millworkman I did ask. The Meridian door is what we prefer, but with double sliders and 2 finger pulls. The rep said they cannot make the Meridian door as double sliders. The Paragon door is at Home Depot http://www.homedepot.com/p/Coastal-Shower-Doors-Paragon-3-16-B-Series-60-in-x-71-in-Semi-Framed-Sliding-Shower-Door-with-Towel-Bar-in-Chrome-and-Clear-Glass-5260-71B-C/205676014

  • 9 years ago

    Meridan you could not as you need two tracks. I will keep on it for you.

  • 9 years ago

    roarah I reached out to them. I am waiting for a response and will also call tomorrow.

  • 9 years ago

    They don't work in NYC; too far. @roarah

  • 9 years ago
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    @homepro01

    No on the little door. Not sure if it's not possible or just not recommended. This is the reply:

    "I apologize for the delay in getting back to you. I would not recommend the "little door" approach. I think your space is large enough that you could stand in the shower area, activate the shower controls and not get wet - if that is what you are concerned with. I would definitely recommend one fixed panel and one door, and MWE has some great systems for such an assembly. I think I sent you a catalog in a previous email. Let me know how you want to proceed and I'll get some pricing together for you. Thanks and have a great weekend. "

  • 9 years ago

    Oh sorry Katrina, I thought their name implied NY, Ct and NJ maybe it is Ri and Ma .... No worries for I know you will find something smashing for that lovely shower though!

  • 9 years ago

    Katrina,

    My eyes are starting to play tricks on me but this looks like a dual slider without bars and the type of mechanism you want? Give them a call and see if it is really a dual slider:

    Kalia Slider from Ybath

    Good luck!

    Katrina Tate thanked homepro01
  • 9 years ago

    Katrina, I am also in NYC and my newly renovated master bathroom is now almost complete except for the shower door, (+ hand shower, corner baskets etc) I too would like 2 sliders with a minimal header. Did you find one? My contractor referred me to the Serenity as well but I pointed out to him that one door is fixed. Would love to talk to you if possible. Prefer sliders to hinge in order to have access to valves prior to entering shower. Had to put valves on wall next to toilet due to various plumbing issues and space. The opening is about 53" and the ceiling is about 8'.

    Deborah

  • 9 years ago
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    Deborah G. We bought the Kohler levity double sliding doors and really like them.

    https://www.build.com/kohler-k-706023-l/s1174966

    Reveal photos are here:

    http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/4212390/reveal-nyc-bathroom

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks, nice reno!!! How big is your shower opening? We only have 52" and I thought the Kohler levity was non-customizable. Also, I like your heat grate, where did you get it? I have a quote right now from Airflex.

  • 9 years ago
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    Deborah G. Thanks! It is 57.25. We had the vent covers custom made by Architectural Grille in Brooklyn. I sent them the design since oddly enough they did not have herringbone as a stock design.

  • 9 years ago

    Deborah G. Your bathroom layout looks very nice. I have constructed my bathrooms and was thinking of adopting your layout. Could you please let me know the dimensions of your bathroom, and the bathroom door?

    attached is mine.

    I am thinking of doing a sliding door for the shower cubicle. The bathroom on the left will have a pivoting door to enter while the one on the right will have a sliding door to enter - due to space issues.


  • 9 years ago

    Hi my bathroom is the same dimensions as yours, and the entry door is 23". After we installed the tile, the interior dimensions got a bit smaller due to the thickness of the tile etc, which is why we have 52" wall to wall at the shower threshold. Think about access to your valves when you decide on your shower door design. We couldn't move ours to the opening opposite the shower opening since a) it's an exterior wall, not recommended b) we would have had to build the wall out and would have lost space inside the shower. We couldn't move our toilet or sink, this is an apartment building.

  • 9 years ago

    Deborah G. Thank you. This is great advice.

  • 8 years ago
    I am having the same dilemma also. Had the shower people out here today. I never thought about a pivot door until they mentioned it. The slider is a little bit more. Glad I read this post. They told me the door can swing both ways so I shouldn’t have a problem not enough room . Also I have a question. He wants to put the glass up to the ceiling. Would there be a problem with too much steam?
  • 8 years ago

    Anna D'Arco DeLeo I can't imagine there would be an issue with steam since there must be an opening at the top of the glass. They cannot very well fully enclose it with glass if the door swings both ways.


  • 8 years ago

    This is what you want. It's not cheap. And the double hardware might look too clunky?


    http://agalite.com/transcend-video/

  • 8 years ago

    Did you end up getting your doors from a Kohler distributor or from a store like Lowes? I know they're much less expensive at Lowes, but apparently the glass isn't as thick? Wondering if it's worth the extra money for thicker glass. Will it affect the performance of the door, etc.? Any thoughts you have would be much appreciated. Great bathroom, by the way!