No experience, but I'm sure someone can help!!

no it won't

Thanks much! I will see if my husband can identify a product here in Japan that contains that ingredient.

Someone on this forum suggested treating the soil with neem oil and I wonder, is that a "systemic" treatment of the plant or just killing bugs in the soil?

Sorry I'm such a novice at this! I truly do appreciate the forum and I owe all my beautiful ripening fruit to the lot of you!

Yes suzu it works like a systemic if you water it into the soil, the plant will drink it up and anything that chews or sucks the plant will ingest it. It also should kill bugs in the mix but I don't think it works very well against fungus gnats in my experience.

Thank you for helping me figure this out. What ratio of neem oil to water do you use and do you think this would work on citrus leaf miners? Neem oil is one thing I have been able to get here! Suzanne

Bacillus thuringiensis Bt Insecticide & Pesticide should work well.

Thanks Steve. I tried to order Monterey through Amazon, but they canceled the order because it couldn't be shipped here. I'll keep looking but may try using neem oil as a soil drench.

CLM is not harmful to the tree unless it is very severe. The leaves still function even though they may be twisted. They just don't look nice.

If your trees are in pots you could bring them inside at the insect egg laying time then put them back outside. You could contact an orchard and ask how they deal with it.

Steve, thanks for the encouragement. I guess it is just pride, as I know the experts suggest leaving them alone if not severe- which it is not. I truly prefer to use as few chemicals as possible because I want to eat these blasted fruit! They have been my pride and joy in my front dooryard, so I notice every little critter and am frustrated that these clm are tiny little guys that are so small I can't seem to do much about them! I'm going to try the neem oil in the soil that Hobby suggested.

I got my two meyers trees from an internet supplier and they were unblemished for months, so I felt I had escaped it. I notice that almost every lemon at the local nursery has citrus leaf miner already! (asia is the hotbed for it). So when I buy any more, I am definitely going back to the internet supplier, so I don't introduce more to my garden.

On another note, I repotted my lime tree, with 4 nearly ripe limes on it, and I was so happy with how the 5-1-1 soil released without a struggle. And, I found a pot full of white, healthy roots! What a welcomed relief. I had suspected it was making roots because it had not had any new leaves or shoots until just this month. Thanks so much for all the help I've received from you and all the folks on the forum. Getting through my first citrus year has been suspenseful but full of joy, too! Couldn't have done it without the team here. Now if only I can get them through the winter months outdoors . . . .